1 00:00:03,889 --> 00:00:01,790 evening you guys you're listening to me 2 00:00:05,450 --> 00:00:03,899 Heidi Hollis the Outlanders welcome to 3 00:00:09,259 --> 00:00:05,460 the show everybody get comfortable put 4 00:00:11,959 --> 00:00:09,269 your feet I thought so relax and get 5 00:00:15,589 --> 00:00:11,969 ready to laugh and learn about the 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:15,599 paranormal this show if you do not know 7 00:00:19,550 --> 00:00:17,490 is about bringing outlandish and 8 00:00:21,859 --> 00:00:19,560 interesting topics to the forefront from 9 00:00:24,859 --> 00:00:21,869 aliens angels ghosts demons I ain't got 10 00:00:26,540 --> 00:00:24,869 a shadow people to Bigfoot to the 11 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:26,550 outlandish always say if it's weird 12 00:00:33,010 --> 00:00:29,369 we're here and now you are too so people 13 00:00:39,139 --> 00:00:33,020 you are among friends if you do that 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:39,149 when it comes to outlandish Jesus shadow 15 00:00:43,250 --> 00:00:40,370 people 16 00:00:44,959 --> 00:00:43,260 angels anything and everything out of 17 00:00:47,299 --> 00:00:44,969 the ordinary personally I'm someone who 18 00:00:48,650 --> 00:00:47,309 has been there seeing that experience 19 00:00:51,020 --> 00:00:48,660 that freaked out found some answers 20 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:51,030 wrote about it got over it and now I'm 21 00:00:55,340 --> 00:00:52,530 hoping to help others do the same darn 22 00:01:00,619 --> 00:00:55,350 thing and understand this kooky crazy 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:00,629 fun exhilarating world of ours if you 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:03,930 dare if you want I welcome you to learn 25 00:01:11,330 --> 00:01:05,850 more about me at my main website which 26 00:01:14,170 --> 00:01:11,340 is a pause for dramatic build-up Heidi 27 00:01:17,420 --> 00:01:14,180 Hollis calm it's really difficult and I 28 00:01:22,429 --> 00:01:17,430 welcome you off also check out the 29 00:01:24,109 --> 00:01:22,439 outlandish corner I have that all listed 30 00:01:26,270 --> 00:01:24,119 I have some new things that I'm putting 31 00:01:27,950 --> 00:01:26,280 up on actually it didn't go oh never 32 00:01:29,569 --> 00:01:27,960 mind I thought it was posted up on my 33 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:29,579 site but it's not it's not there yet I 34 00:01:35,510 --> 00:01:32,970 was going to have a certain part a new 35 00:01:38,539 --> 00:01:35,520 addition to the outlandish corner which 36 00:01:40,190 --> 00:01:38,549 I always do quite frequently on this 37 00:01:42,230 --> 00:01:40,200 program and I'll tell you more about 38 00:01:43,819 --> 00:01:42,240 that here in a second darn I didn't put 39 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:43,829 it live I didn't publish it on the site 40 00:01:48,620 --> 00:01:45,329 yet but what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna 41 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:48,630 have a new segment on Heidi house.com 42 00:01:56,350 --> 00:01:51,090 I'll be out late at your corner mm-hmm 43 00:01:58,819 --> 00:01:56,360 it it'll go wife's where but check out 44 00:02:01,310 --> 00:01:58,829 Outlanders comic which is with the 45 00:02:04,039 --> 00:02:01,320 Outlanders comic calm you can also find 46 00:02:06,530 --> 00:02:04,049 that on inception radio network calm on 47 00:02:09,139 --> 00:02:06,540 the first age it is a paranormal comic 48 00:02:11,119 --> 00:02:09,149 and it is getting a lot of very cool 49 00:02:12,610 --> 00:02:11,129 interest from a lot of cool people just 50 00:02:14,140 --> 00:02:12,620 like you 51 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:14,150 and I want to tell you guys how you can 52 00:02:19,809 --> 00:02:15,530 hear this program most people listen to 53 00:02:21,930 --> 00:02:19,819 this show through the eye I think it's 54 00:02:25,390 --> 00:02:21,940 awesome you go listen to us at any point 55 00:02:27,250 --> 00:02:25,400 get it from your app store and enjoy and 56 00:02:29,470 --> 00:02:27,260 you can also listen to this show by just 57 00:02:33,250 --> 00:02:29,480 dialing a simple number four zero one 58 00:02:36,580 --> 00:02:33,260 two eight three 6700 and you will have a 59 00:02:39,069 --> 00:02:36,590 blast just tuning in wherever you get a 60 00:02:41,949 --> 00:02:39,079 dial tone it's not cool and I welcome 61 00:02:44,380 --> 00:02:41,959 you also to college to this program one 62 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:44,390 eight eight eight nine one nine 2355 or 63 00:02:51,250 --> 00:02:49,250 go to Skype and that work MJ's working 64 00:02:53,410 --> 00:02:51,260 it and he will pass along your comments 65 00:02:56,349 --> 00:02:53,420 and questions and you guys could go to 66 00:02:57,940 --> 00:02:56,359 IR and chat comm which is the chat room 67 00:02:59,860 --> 00:02:57,950 where people are sitting there hanging 68 00:03:02,110 --> 00:02:59,870 out right now and unfortunately I'm out 69 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:02,120 of town so I'm not able to look at the 70 00:03:07,630 --> 00:03:04,370 chat room right now but maybe maybe in a 71 00:03:09,430 --> 00:03:07,640 bit I just hope we'll see so I know my 72 00:03:12,759 --> 00:03:09,440 friends are hanging there so hey friends 73 00:03:14,890 --> 00:03:12,769 what's going on how's life and I want to 74 00:03:17,140 --> 00:03:14,900 tell you guys about the outlandish 75 00:03:19,330 --> 00:03:17,150 corner I have been skipping it a lot 76 00:03:20,979 --> 00:03:19,340 lately and I apologize and I've been 77 00:03:23,500 --> 00:03:20,989 hearing some snack from people saying 78 00:03:25,809 --> 00:03:23,510 are you doing that okay so I'm gonna I'm 79 00:03:27,460 --> 00:03:25,819 gonna roll it back a little bit and I'm 80 00:03:29,229 --> 00:03:27,470 gonna start doing doubt Lynch corner 81 00:03:31,809 --> 00:03:29,239 more often at the beginning of my shows 82 00:03:34,330 --> 00:03:31,819 that once again we're usually for the 83 00:03:36,940 --> 00:03:34,340 first 30 minutes I would address your 84 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:36,950 comments and questions and stories about 85 00:03:40,449 --> 00:03:38,810 everything that you guys are very 86 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:40,459 experienced and what you may have 87 00:03:45,099 --> 00:03:42,650 questions about no I'm not a psychic a 88 00:03:52,119 --> 00:03:45,109 psychic or guru though I play one on 89 00:03:56,890 --> 00:03:52,129 television that's kidding but some 90 00:03:58,890 --> 00:03:56,900 level-headed advice so outlandish corner 91 00:04:02,250 --> 00:03:58,900 that's what that is I welcome you to 92 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:02,260 write me at dusk Outlander at gmail.com 93 00:04:08,710 --> 00:04:06,530 das Outlander at gmail.com try not to 94 00:04:10,900 --> 00:04:08,720 send me messages on Facebook because let 95 00:04:13,210 --> 00:04:10,910 me tell you either it's haunted or it's 96 00:04:14,740 --> 00:04:13,220 against me or something is going on that 97 00:04:16,599 --> 00:04:14,750 should not be going on but I don't get 98 00:04:18,819 --> 00:04:16,609 all those messages I'm just gonna say it 99 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:18,829 I don't I don't know why I don't know 100 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:21,289 what's going on uh so yeah just right 101 00:04:26,290 --> 00:04:24,530 knee dust Outlander at gmail.com and I 102 00:04:28,450 --> 00:04:26,300 want to tell you too we're gonna 103 00:04:31,029 --> 00:04:28,460 have a very interesting chat after the 104 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:31,039 30-minute break here we're gonna have 105 00:04:36,129 --> 00:04:32,930 Chris Brown very shortly and we're gonna 106 00:04:37,869 --> 00:04:36,139 talk about an alien UFO sighting that 107 00:04:40,450 --> 00:04:37,879 you have never heard of before 108 00:04:42,990 --> 00:04:40,460 don't Dom okay maybe you did because 109 00:04:45,730 --> 00:04:43,000 he's been a guest on here before but 110 00:04:49,499 --> 00:04:45,740 talk about it anyways because it's just 111 00:04:51,550 --> 00:04:49,509 fascinating stuff anywho guess what 112 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:51,560 we're gonna do the outlandish corner 113 00:05:01,510 --> 00:04:56,289 mm-hmm right now roll out the red carpet 114 00:05:04,209 --> 00:05:01,520 no not red purple what's I thinking okay 115 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:04,219 anyways here we go okay everybody 116 00:05:10,899 --> 00:05:07,360 this one says dear Heidi that's me I 117 00:05:14,140 --> 00:05:10,909 encountered hat man in 1995 while in the 118 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:14,150 Marine Corps hmm I was a student at a 119 00:05:19,270 --> 00:05:16,610 support service school that was on a 120 00:05:21,550 --> 00:05:19,280 base that was part of camp illusion 121 00:05:23,290 --> 00:05:21,560 North Carolina hmm I don't know he's 122 00:05:25,709 --> 00:05:23,300 pronounced that we were on the peace 123 00:05:29,379 --> 00:05:25,719 that was formerly Maude Fort Point 124 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:29,389 Monforte Point a bit that the base where 125 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:31,849 black Marines trained during segregation 126 00:05:39,010 --> 00:05:36,050 Oh due to overcrowding we lived in one 127 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:39,020 of the old barracks a few times while on 128 00:05:46,059 --> 00:05:41,810 fire watch which is called night 129 00:05:49,209 --> 00:05:46,069 security I saw a shadow of a man wearing 130 00:05:52,059 --> 00:05:49,219 a hat at the far end of the open 131 00:05:54,430 --> 00:05:52,069 barracks I would walk to where I saw him 132 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:54,440 to find nothing oh no it looked back 133 00:05:59,320 --> 00:05:57,650 down the floor he would be at that far 134 00:06:02,619 --> 00:05:59,330 end as if you were playing a 135 00:06:05,499 --> 00:06:02,629 cat-and-mouse game with me well one 136 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:05,509 morning prior to our morning formation I 137 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:08,330 asked other Marines that live with me if 138 00:06:14,409 --> 00:06:10,849 they had seen anything strange while on 139 00:06:17,740 --> 00:06:14,419 fire watch without hesitation other 140 00:06:25,029 --> 00:06:17,750 young Marines began to describe the same 141 00:06:27,010 --> 00:06:25,039 shadow man at first we thought that it 142 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:27,020 had something to do with the military 143 00:06:31,990 --> 00:06:29,930 history of the place after having an 144 00:06:36,550 --> 00:06:32,000 in-depth conversation about it we all 145 00:06:39,730 --> 00:06:36,560 agreed that this at was not a military 146 00:06:43,150 --> 00:06:39,740 style hat whatever it was was 147 00:06:46,570 --> 00:06:43,160 not military-related i have thankfully 148 00:06:48,879 --> 00:06:46,580 not encountered him since and i hope 149 00:06:51,540 --> 00:06:48,889 that i never do again have there been 150 00:06:53,890 --> 00:06:51,550 other military sightings similar to this 151 00:06:57,570 --> 00:06:53,900 thank you 152 00:07:01,210 --> 00:06:57,580 there is no name after this one oh 153 00:07:05,379 --> 00:07:01,220 that's interesting um let me think for a 154 00:07:06,339 --> 00:07:05,389 second mystery man military barracks 155 00:07:15,879 --> 00:07:06,349 sightings 156 00:07:17,890 --> 00:07:15,889 understandably but not yeah yeah some 157 00:07:20,499 --> 00:07:17,900 people try to get me on their prison 158 00:07:23,740 --> 00:07:20,509 email list but I have to allow them 159 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:23,750 access to and something tells me that 160 00:07:28,210 --> 00:07:26,690 wouldn't be a good idea so I haven't 161 00:07:30,070 --> 00:07:28,220 even though I looked up a couple of 162 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:30,080 those people to see if they were violent 163 00:07:35,409 --> 00:07:32,530 offenders intended to be like federal 164 00:07:39,399 --> 00:07:35,419 prisoners with white collar crimes but 165 00:07:42,159 --> 00:07:39,409 still yeah anyway so why were we we're 166 00:07:45,510 --> 00:07:42,169 talking about military barrack stuff I 167 00:07:48,570 --> 00:07:45,520 can say that I don't recall having that 168 00:07:51,820 --> 00:07:48,580 hmm I've had people in the military 169 00:07:54,730 --> 00:07:51,830 definitely write me but not to say it 170 00:07:57,790 --> 00:07:54,740 was connected to a certain location on a 171 00:07:59,770 --> 00:07:57,800 military base but you know what with all 172 00:08:01,870 --> 00:07:59,780 of the emails I've gotten even though I 173 00:08:07,029 --> 00:08:01,880 really do my best to get through this 174 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:07,039 mystery hole that is called Facebook 175 00:08:12,249 --> 00:08:09,770 messenger that has been really trapping 176 00:08:14,620 --> 00:08:12,259 a lot of messages to me who knows there 177 00:08:16,839 --> 00:08:14,630 might be a gazillion of messages about 178 00:08:18,969 --> 00:08:16,849 military barracks with a hat man 179 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:18,979 wandering around and chatter people I 180 00:08:23,649 --> 00:08:21,650 don't know because every time I go in 181 00:08:25,180 --> 00:08:23,659 there there's just a few hundred more 182 00:08:26,980 --> 00:08:25,190 and a few hundred more maybe thousands 183 00:08:29,499 --> 00:08:26,990 more I I don't know if somebody 184 00:08:31,330 --> 00:08:29,509 understands this please let me know I'll 185 00:08:35,019 --> 00:08:31,340 tell you a brief what the issue is 186 00:08:37,269 --> 00:08:35,029 people send me a message that are not on 187 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:37,279 my friends list and it goes into the 188 00:08:44,019 --> 00:08:38,930 special whole of the universe called 189 00:08:46,630 --> 00:08:44,029 facebook Messenger and and then if a 190 00:08:50,079 --> 00:08:46,640 person makes a personal request I think 191 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:50,089 a request to add me to messenger all of 192 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:53,450 a sudden all those mystery messages show 193 00:08:58,470 --> 00:08:55,970 in this other folder that wasn't there 194 00:09:01,060 --> 00:08:58,480 prior to getting that request and 195 00:09:02,890 --> 00:09:01,070 without knowing I would go and answer 196 00:09:04,990 --> 00:09:02,900 that request and bring all those 197 00:09:10,570 --> 00:09:05,000 messages disappear they're not there 198 00:09:13,270 --> 00:09:10,580 anymore I'm like is that so I won't 199 00:09:14,770 --> 00:09:13,280 answer a messenger requests so I can 200 00:09:17,260 --> 00:09:14,780 hopefully get through all the hundreds 201 00:09:19,330 --> 00:09:17,270 if not thousands of messages and like it 202 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:19,340 only reveals like 20 at a time or 203 00:09:23,830 --> 00:09:22,250 something so I'll go and now one week I 204 00:09:25,660 --> 00:09:23,840 just kept going at it's like 20 at a 205 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:25,670 time 20 at a time responding respondent 206 00:09:30,010 --> 00:09:27,770 responding saves they say and they just 207 00:09:33,220 --> 00:09:30,020 kept coming it doesn't end and there 208 00:09:33,550 --> 00:09:33,230 they go for years it's crazy I don't get 209 00:09:42,940 --> 00:09:33,560 it 210 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:42,950 one this one says hello Heidi hello 211 00:09:49,150 --> 00:09:46,970 how's it going my name is Brandon I know 212 00:09:53,830 --> 00:09:49,160 you have thousands of people daily that 213 00:09:57,610 --> 00:09:53,840 message you oh I wish that's no that's a 214 00:10:00,220 --> 00:09:57,620 stretch but if you by chance happen to 215 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:00,230 get to read this I ask you to please 216 00:10:06,700 --> 00:10:02,570 reach out to me in some kind of way 217 00:10:08,590 --> 00:10:06,710 shape and form oh I've heard a few of 218 00:10:12,310 --> 00:10:08,600 your interviews regarding the Hat man a 219 00:10:15,190 --> 00:10:12,320 shadow people I am a living witness to 220 00:10:19,390 --> 00:10:15,200 this ordeal I am 33 and I have been 221 00:10:22,690 --> 00:10:19,400 seeing this entity for 425 that I can 222 00:10:26,050 --> 00:10:22,700 remember I am currently a soldier in the 223 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:26,060 US Army what now didn't we just have I 224 00:10:30,490 --> 00:10:27,890 mean I swear guys I picked these 225 00:10:32,890 --> 00:10:30,500 randomly and it just always seems like 226 00:10:35,740 --> 00:10:32,900 we get a coincidence going at cool to 227 00:10:38,980 --> 00:10:35,750 think going on between emails it's wild 228 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:38,990 so anyways okay I am currently a soldier 229 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:41,090 in the US Army and I have served for 230 00:10:48,100 --> 00:10:44,930 going on 16 years this year however 231 00:10:53,650 --> 00:10:48,110 every location around the world I have 232 00:10:56,680 --> 00:10:53,660 seen this man and yes he speaks he's 233 00:11:01,980 --> 00:10:56,690 left a scratch mark on my right lower 234 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:01,990 bicep upper elbow I need some help or 235 00:11:07,300 --> 00:11:06,410 insight I don't know how to reach out to 236 00:11:12,130 --> 00:11:07,310 you other than 237 00:11:15,490 --> 00:11:12,140 and he kept it please help yes I am of 238 00:11:18,940 --> 00:11:15,500 faith yes I have had battles with him in 239 00:11:21,910 --> 00:11:18,950 the shadow type people however I wasn't 240 00:11:24,970 --> 00:11:21,920 the one to battle him but a celestial 241 00:11:28,450 --> 00:11:24,980 presence that won't necessarily allow me 242 00:11:31,870 --> 00:11:28,460 to see it but it is pure light in sheer 243 00:11:36,460 --> 00:11:31,880 darkness when this happens I'm still 244 00:11:41,050 --> 00:11:36,470 kinda PSD PTSD about it and the last 245 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:41,060 time I saw any skirmish was when I was 246 00:11:48,490 --> 00:11:44,810 around 20 or in my early 20s I'm 33 now 247 00:11:50,290 --> 00:11:48,500 I would love to get into detail on any 248 00:11:53,260 --> 00:11:50,300 of my stories around the world in this 249 00:11:56,170 --> 00:11:53,270 man but I don't want to be too 250 00:11:59,019 --> 00:11:56,180 long-winded at the core of my stories 251 00:12:04,030 --> 00:11:59,029 the Hat man appears to be after the use 252 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:04,040 of my and maybe others gifts as in the 253 00:12:14,110 --> 00:12:10,970 gifts that God gives us as a team just 254 00:12:16,990 --> 00:12:14,120 prior to joining the military and going 255 00:12:19,690 --> 00:12:17,000 to West Point to become an officer he 256 00:12:25,020 --> 00:12:19,700 tried to prophesize this happening and 257 00:12:27,340 --> 00:12:25,030 asked me to join his cause per se I 258 00:12:30,190 --> 00:12:27,350 didn't know what this meant doesn't kid 259 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:30,200 in teen I see and know now as I'm 260 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:32,210 getting older and experiencing this 261 00:12:38,550 --> 00:12:35,600 stuff as I go on in life please get in 262 00:12:44,230 --> 00:12:38,560 touch with me in caps some kind of way 263 00:12:54,130 --> 00:12:44,240 my email is number call text whatever 264 00:12:56,770 --> 00:12:54,140 you like oh okay I just I mean to pause 265 00:13:01,120 --> 00:12:56,780 for dramatic pause is not happening I am 266 00:13:05,350 --> 00:13:01,130 just you guys I mean I get so many so 267 00:13:07,390 --> 00:13:05,360 many letters and what this beast of a 268 00:13:12,750 --> 00:13:07,400 hat man is doing what he's what he's 269 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:12,760 pulling on people is absolutely beyond 270 00:13:21,090 --> 00:13:18,410 what I mean just sit seat like a hood 271 00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:21,100 right now I would paced the room 272 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:23,510 but I can't because I have really poor 273 00:13:28,210 --> 00:13:24,530 reception where I'm at 274 00:13:31,540 --> 00:13:28,220 I probably lose you guys it is it is 275 00:13:35,290 --> 00:13:31,550 getting worse out there it is getting so 276 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:35,300 much worse and and I I just I mean first 277 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:41,770 babies then toddlers teens lifelong 278 00:13:53,290 --> 00:13:47,810 harassment and abuse and now he's 279 00:13:57,550 --> 00:13:53,300 recruiting and and the thing is it's 280 00:14:00,250 --> 00:13:57,560 it's wearing people down I was enough I 281 00:14:02,710 --> 00:14:00,260 have a chat group on Facebook please do 282 00:14:03,730 --> 00:14:02,720 join especially if you have interests or 283 00:14:04,690 --> 00:14:03,740 would like to help others that are 284 00:14:07,350 --> 00:14:04,700 experiencing this because it's 285 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:07,360 traumatizing the gentleman here is a 286 00:14:17,560 --> 00:14:11,210 veteran he's still in the military and 287 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:17,570 he has PTSD from this PTSD from demons 288 00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:22,970 okay I mean what does that tell you your 289 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:26,240 soul it something it to be standing 290 00:14:31,390 --> 00:14:27,530 there in front of the enemy of all 291 00:14:33,060 --> 00:14:31,400 enemies and and he's able to scare you 292 00:14:38,290 --> 00:14:33,070 to the soul of you 293 00:14:40,900 --> 00:14:38,300 what the hell what the hell what what we 294 00:14:44,140 --> 00:14:40,910 have all got to stand up for each other 295 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:44,150 we have all got to throw our hats into 296 00:14:51,010 --> 00:14:48,050 the pile and take this crap on so go to 297 00:14:55,140 --> 00:14:51,020 Facebook go to hat man shadow people and 298 00:14:57,670 --> 00:14:55,150 hat man experiences grow and you know 299 00:14:59,290 --> 00:14:57,680 it's hard for me to keep up all the time 300 00:15:01,330 --> 00:14:59,300 with the check that goes on there I have 301 00:15:03,810 --> 00:15:01,340 a wonderful that's on there that manages 302 00:15:08,620 --> 00:15:03,820 name Francie and she does a great job 303 00:15:10,030 --> 00:15:08,630 keeping track of things and last night 304 00:15:14,590 --> 00:15:10,040 quite early in the morning that was a 305 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:14,600 pretty late I say several people 306 00:15:22,930 --> 00:15:18,730 chatting in there and one gentleman 307 00:15:24,610 --> 00:15:22,940 giving at 3:30 in the morning so he 308 00:15:26,170 --> 00:15:24,620 doesn't fall asleep at night because he 309 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:26,180 wasn't in the mood for the Hat man in 310 00:15:32,470 --> 00:15:30,050 his crap he wanted to not have to deal 311 00:15:34,889 --> 00:15:32,480 with him at night last night was last 312 00:15:37,290 --> 00:15:34,899 night another person try 313 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:37,300 Xena says oMG I just went for a walk at 314 00:15:42,449 --> 00:15:38,649 2:00 in the morning around the block for 315 00:15:44,999 --> 00:15:42,459 the same reason I mean this is just it's 316 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:45,009 there is no break there's no break heat 317 00:15:49,139 --> 00:15:47,050 and and in the gentleman that's you know 318 00:15:50,879 --> 00:15:49,149 driving around 3:30 in the morning he 319 00:15:52,650 --> 00:15:50,889 said thanks for quiet for several years 320 00:15:55,439 --> 00:15:52,660 with him and now he's back and I'm 321 00:15:57,119 --> 00:15:55,449 seeing this pattern again with people 322 00:15:58,949 --> 00:15:57,129 saying the same thing I hadn't seen him 323 00:16:02,910 --> 00:15:58,959 since I was a kid or and now he's back 324 00:16:06,660 --> 00:16:02,920 and he's he's worse than ever and I'm 325 00:16:08,579 --> 00:16:06,670 trying to get a hold on what is going on 326 00:16:11,340 --> 00:16:08,589 out there fully so I welcome people 327 00:16:15,329 --> 00:16:11,350 please write me as much detail as you 328 00:16:16,799 --> 00:16:15,339 can in regards to what it is that you're 329 00:16:21,299 --> 00:16:16,809 experiencing what he's saying what he's 330 00:16:23,910 --> 00:16:21,309 doing and that's let's grab him by it by 331 00:16:28,679 --> 00:16:23,920 the bull horns I know what you thought 332 00:16:31,139 --> 00:16:28,689 I'd say but bull horns and let's twist 333 00:16:32,819 --> 00:16:31,149 them a couple of knots and and bring him 334 00:16:37,019 --> 00:16:32,829 to his knees if you know what I'm saying 335 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:37,029 I've had enough I've had enough and I 336 00:16:41,369 --> 00:16:38,050 think a lot of these people have had 337 00:16:45,780 --> 00:16:41,379 enough too I tell people that I am in a 338 00:16:49,650 --> 00:16:45,790 war against death I am because this guy 339 00:16:52,619 --> 00:16:49,660 brings death and this evil crown it's oh 340 00:16:54,239 --> 00:16:52,629 it's so ridiculous I I guess so angry so 341 00:16:56,069 --> 00:16:54,249 angry doesn't help anything to get angry 342 00:17:01,980 --> 00:16:56,079 so we'll just keep the humor going and 343 00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:01,990 oh but oh he needs to go down it we all 344 00:17:09,299 --> 00:17:04,240 have to pull our efforts together we 345 00:17:12,449 --> 00:17:09,309 have to its him great join the fight and 346 00:17:16,649 --> 00:17:12,459 awareness and helping people who are 347 00:17:17,549 --> 00:17:16,659 experiencing this guttural beast oh he's 348 00:17:21,120 --> 00:17:17,559 a piece of crap 349 00:17:25,949 --> 00:17:21,130 god I can't stand him PTSD a veteran of 350 00:17:27,630 --> 00:17:25,959 16 years has PTSD from him not from I 351 00:17:28,919 --> 00:17:27,640 didn't hear anything about other things 352 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:28,929 I'm sure the other stuff but in that 353 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:30,970 he's probably experiencing and combat 354 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:35,890 are not anything fantastic - for for 355 00:17:42,659 --> 00:17:39,730 keeping one's mind calm as well but well 356 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:42,669 this is just that's crazy this is 357 00:17:47,010 --> 00:17:43,450 absolutely crazy 358 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:47,020 so um Brandon I will be giving you a 359 00:17:52,900 --> 00:17:52,240 it's just it's too much it's too much I 360 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:52,910 understand 361 00:17:58,299 --> 00:17:55,570 we shall chat I will be calling you 362 00:17:59,950 --> 00:17:58,309 already and I think that that was a 363 00:18:02,020 --> 00:17:59,960 message I got from Facebook see this is 364 00:18:04,510 --> 00:18:02,030 a kicker I think that was when I grabbed 365 00:18:06,850 --> 00:18:04,520 an email to myself to address at some 366 00:18:08,650 --> 00:18:06,860 point I'm pretty sure it is because it 367 00:18:11,620 --> 00:18:08,660 doesn't have an email address at the top 368 00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:11,630 and that's that's what sucks with this 369 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:14,480 messenger problem I'm having is it'll be 370 00:18:19,510 --> 00:18:16,370 so delayed and people have been 371 00:18:23,530 --> 00:18:19,520 suffering and I couldn't get to it crap 372 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:23,540 oh just so frustrating so um yeah we 373 00:18:31,660 --> 00:18:25,610 shall talk alright I got another big one 374 00:18:33,850 --> 00:18:31,670 that's what I get called this all day 375 00:18:36,220 --> 00:18:33,860 long because people blow into my first 376 00:18:37,990 --> 00:18:36,230 and last name and I do get it at times 377 00:18:44,530 --> 00:18:38,000 and emails and texts but this is just 378 00:18:46,330 --> 00:18:44,540 classic dear Holly mm-hmm I did not have 379 00:18:48,190 --> 00:18:46,340 a lifetime experience with what has been 380 00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:48,200 coined shadow people 381 00:18:54,220 --> 00:18:50,960 but recently came upon an entire 382 00:18:56,530 --> 00:18:54,230 community of them I am a professional 383 00:18:58,450 --> 00:18:56,540 business owner and I'm well known in our 384 00:19:01,390 --> 00:18:58,460 community so coming out with this 385 00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:01,400 discovery it was just among other things 386 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:04,160 that don't tell nobody just a chat here 387 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:07,010 I could put your name out I have just 388 00:19:11,740 --> 00:19:10,010 read your first book and if my discovery 389 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:11,750 is authentic it might be important to 390 00:19:23,350 --> 00:19:19,250 your research Wow in a quick synopsis a 391 00:19:25,419 --> 00:19:23,360 place a place what a place an offer 392 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:25,429 oh I place an offer on a residence - 393 00:19:30,370 --> 00:19:28,250 fixed up and resell I took some 394 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:30,380 preliminary pictures to show my business 395 00:19:36,549 --> 00:19:33,170 partner when I got home and looked at 396 00:19:38,890 --> 00:19:36,559 the pics for my cell and expanded one of 397 00:19:41,890 --> 00:19:38,900 the pools of a stunned scared horrified 398 00:19:46,210 --> 00:19:41,900 and frozen for about 30 minutes what I 399 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:46,220 saw makes no sense I saw at least 13 400 00:19:52,350 --> 00:19:49,490 shadow people a Batman and some other 401 00:19:55,030 --> 00:19:52,360 things I can only describe as trolls 402 00:19:59,780 --> 00:19:55,040 there are three of them and one is as 403 00:20:05,630 --> 00:20:03,320 we returned to the property for the home 404 00:20:07,010 --> 00:20:05,640 inspection as my partner had me 405 00:20:10,100 --> 00:20:07,020 believing the photos were just 406 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:10,110 distortion for my phone malfunctioning 407 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:14,850 at the time of the inspection I asked to 408 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:17,010 use her phone to take additional photos 409 00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:19,290 she reluctantly agreed when I got home 410 00:20:24,350 --> 00:20:21,030 again looked at the pictures and there 411 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:24,360 was a tall shadow man and a hat standing 412 00:20:29,810 --> 00:20:27,410 arrogantly watching us near a fence I 413 00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:29,820 compared that photo to an earlier one of 414 00:20:34,580 --> 00:20:31,520 the fence and there was nothing there 415 00:20:36,940 --> 00:20:34,590 what's odd about all this is that all 416 00:20:39,170 --> 00:20:36,950 these photos were taken in the bright 417 00:20:41,540 --> 00:20:39,180 Florida sunshine in the middle of the 418 00:20:44,290 --> 00:20:41,550 day there are more oddities about this 419 00:20:47,660 --> 00:20:44,300 house the realtor until the neighbors 420 00:20:49,730 --> 00:20:47,670 raining from longtime hmm raining 421 00:20:52,790 --> 00:20:49,740 raining from longtime illnesses of two 422 00:20:55,220 --> 00:20:52,800 families stories of the former homeowner 423 00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:55,230 and his illness an instance of one old 424 00:21:00,890 --> 00:20:59,280 neighbor appearing out of nowhere while 425 00:21:03,980 --> 00:21:00,900 I was doing my first walk through the 426 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:03,990 property I'm quite sure all these beings 427 00:21:07,940 --> 00:21:05,730 have been there a very long time I think 428 00:21:09,470 --> 00:21:07,950 the only reason I was able to take the 429 00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,480 first and most revealing picture is that 430 00:21:15,620 --> 00:21:11,760 I took it from inside the house and I 431 00:21:18,500 --> 00:21:15,630 could not have not it's hard to read 432 00:21:21,650 --> 00:21:18,510 this I don't know that's whatever could 433 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:21,660 not have seen taken the picture from 434 00:21:27,740 --> 00:21:25,010 outside and down the hill near the water 435 00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:27,750 these things seemed to go in and out of 436 00:21:32,300 --> 00:21:30,000 the water way which opens up to the Gulf 437 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:32,310 of Mexico directly maybe there's a 438 00:21:41,060 --> 00:21:36,090 portal heard of portals occurring during 439 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:41,070 an episode of the show dead files okay 440 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:45,210 ah I know you are an extremely busy 441 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:47,970 professional yeah I have very much 442 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:49,650 appreciate reading your works I find 443 00:21:53,690 --> 00:21:51,690 them to be extremely brave renderings 444 00:21:56,780 --> 00:21:53,700 among other things in your background 445 00:21:59,420 --> 00:21:56,790 and education is unequivocal in these 446 00:22:01,400 --> 00:21:59,430 areas well I thank you if you would like 447 00:22:03,530 --> 00:22:01,410 me to share this photographs I'm happy 448 00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:03,540 to do so but I do believe they are quite 449 00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:05,520 rare considering I have not been able to 450 00:22:07,970 --> 00:22:07,440 locate any similar findings on the 451 00:22:11,990 --> 00:22:07,980 Internet 452 00:22:14,270 --> 00:22:12,000 thank you I don't see the name on 453 00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:14,280 this one talk to the name I think I just 454 00:22:20,210 --> 00:22:17,130 clipped it by mistake but I do have 455 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:20,220 access to this Oh Michelle 456 00:22:28,850 --> 00:22:26,850 there it is oh my goodness hey everybody 457 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:28,860 everybody all together now 458 00:22:37,130 --> 00:22:32,850 holy smokes we found a mother lode I 459 00:22:44,570 --> 00:22:37,140 mean I don't understand I really don't 460 00:22:47,210 --> 00:22:44,580 understand what I mean I'm speechless 461 00:22:50,510 --> 00:22:47,220 this is too much it's too much 462 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:50,520 so you happen to find a mother lode of 463 00:22:56,900 --> 00:22:55,050 shadow demon things hanging out I think 464 00:22:58,940 --> 00:22:56,910 it would be kind of interesting to be 465 00:23:03,860 --> 00:22:58,950 able to go to a location where there's 466 00:23:04,910 --> 00:23:03,870 such a rotten bit of them I would need 467 00:23:09,290 --> 00:23:04,920 to bring a priest 468 00:23:11,660 --> 00:23:09,300 I mean I've literally been talking about 469 00:23:13,490 --> 00:23:11,670 lately that you know there's a lot of 470 00:23:16,910 --> 00:23:13,500 people that have that lovely mail and 471 00:23:18,350 --> 00:23:16,920 order pastor hood that they do just 472 00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:18,360 doesn't feel quite right to do such a 473 00:23:25,010 --> 00:23:22,710 thing but I am I'm doing okay as far as 474 00:23:27,020 --> 00:23:25,020 demonic influences coming about me and 475 00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:27,030 stuff I I'm pretty good with my faith 476 00:23:35,060 --> 00:23:30,150 wall mm-hmm I build it up and keep it 477 00:23:37,820 --> 00:23:35,070 steady look at all day all day 24/7 but 478 00:23:39,980 --> 00:23:37,830 you know and getting like letters like 479 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:39,990 this and hearing stories of people who 480 00:23:46,130 --> 00:23:43,770 are dealing with this type of thing on a 481 00:23:47,780 --> 00:23:46,140 regular basis or they like they caught a 482 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:47,790 whole mother load of them trying to 483 00:23:54,110 --> 00:23:49,050 sneak over 484 00:23:55,850 --> 00:23:54,120 I need more ammunition I do I need to be 485 00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:55,860 able to throw a Bible verse or a viable 486 00:24:06,100 --> 00:23:58,770 atom or or sprinkle some Jesus on him I 487 00:24:09,170 --> 00:24:06,110 I I mean I think I need to look into 488 00:24:10,730 --> 00:24:09,180 potentially I don't know what do you 489 00:24:13,310 --> 00:24:10,740 call it become a demonologist what is 490 00:24:15,740 --> 00:24:13,320 that I mean is that a deacon what is it 491 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:15,750 I think I need to do something along 492 00:24:20,150 --> 00:24:18,450 those lines because I can't take these 493 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:20,160 things on myself I don't recommend 494 00:24:22,850 --> 00:24:22,530 people to take these on by themselves 495 00:24:26,010 --> 00:24:22,860 either 496 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:26,020 I don't ever I have Jesus standing for 497 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:29,410 uh but a lot of people of course you 498 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:30,490 know everybody has their doubts about 499 00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:33,490 their face how can we echoey remedy that 500 00:24:39,180 --> 00:24:36,400 how can we fix that and I think 501 00:24:42,810 --> 00:24:39,190 sometimes you need to have a bit more 502 00:24:45,660 --> 00:24:42,820 more junk in your trunk to throw 503 00:24:49,140 --> 00:24:45,670 something at these beasts and I'm really 504 00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:49,150 considering getting educated in the area 505 00:25:00,090 --> 00:24:53,910 of I don't know I'm not Catholic I don't 506 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:00,100 call it demon hood I don't know we'll 507 00:25:06,120 --> 00:25:03,970 see I'm thinking it over I'm tasting it 508 00:25:08,490 --> 00:25:06,130 I'm swishing it around in my mouth and 509 00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:08,500 tastes good I think I think I need I 510 00:25:12,990 --> 00:25:10,270 think I need that and I think I need it 511 00:25:16,590 --> 00:25:13,000 to help others it's not for myself it's 512 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:16,600 to help others and time yeah I mean what 513 00:25:21,510 --> 00:25:18,970 do you do when you come upon a cesspool 514 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:21,520 of demons I wouldn't want to bring my 515 00:25:25,740 --> 00:25:23,050 friends with me because that's my hope 516 00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:25,750 oh this stinks really bad it's like you 517 00:25:31,610 --> 00:25:28,720 know I'm a Walking Dead fan okay you 518 00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:31,620 guys see in fear the walking dead I mean 519 00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:34,510 it's more like a pile of these things 520 00:25:38,820 --> 00:25:36,400 and they throw somebody in it to see how 521 00:25:41,130 --> 00:25:38,830 well they do I mean that's what I 522 00:25:46,020 --> 00:25:41,140 imagine seeing a cesspool of shadow 523 00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:46,030 beings and demons and trolls what the 524 00:25:50,790 --> 00:25:48,880 heck who would I throw in there I don't 525 00:25:53,910 --> 00:25:50,800 even think there's anybody I don't like 526 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:53,920 not even know yeah I don't know if 527 00:25:59,550 --> 00:25:55,570 there's nobody I would want to do that 528 00:26:01,890 --> 00:25:59,560 to you know I really don't so I mean how 529 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:01,900 do you take that on Catholic churches 530 00:26:09,060 --> 00:26:05,050 very decisive on who and what they 531 00:26:11,220 --> 00:26:09,070 assist with so we need warriors I need 532 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:11,230 more warriors we need some we need some 533 00:26:14,340 --> 00:26:12,730 people that can help out these priests 534 00:26:17,070 --> 00:26:14,350 yeah I don't know if you guys heard it 535 00:26:20,250 --> 00:26:17,080 was about a year or two ago oh there was 536 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:20,260 an emergency training of exorcists the 537 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:22,930 priests are being overrun with people 538 00:26:27,690 --> 00:26:25,570 who are possessed isn't that something 539 00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:27,700 so what do we have to do we have to 540 00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:30,910 somehow pull up our bootstraps in and 541 00:26:37,230 --> 00:26:34,000 say all right all right I guess I need 542 00:26:39,020 --> 00:26:37,240 to help out my my local pastor priests 543 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:39,030 minister and and 544 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:40,770 take on some responsibility for what's 545 00:26:44,660 --> 00:26:42,930 happening you know for the longest time 546 00:26:46,130 --> 00:26:44,670 I was like I got to put up this book I 547 00:26:47,870 --> 00:26:46,140 hope that this reaches right people 548 00:26:50,270 --> 00:26:47,880 they'll find it if it's meant to be in 549 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:50,280 their hands and ditto and then and I did 550 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:51,810 the column and I'm like okay I'm gonna 551 00:26:55,310 --> 00:26:53,970 answer all these people's emails and put 552 00:26:57,050 --> 00:26:55,320 it in a column and I hope it's reaching 553 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:57,060 the right people and then I'm like gosh 554 00:27:00,740 --> 00:26:58,770 I'm just I felt like I had to keep 555 00:27:03,170 --> 00:27:00,750 reaching more and so then got the 556 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:03,180 opportunity to be on another radio 557 00:27:08,150 --> 00:27:05,370 network and I'm like oh I did everything 558 00:27:10,220 --> 00:27:08,160 I could to put word out there and talk 559 00:27:12,530 --> 00:27:10,230 on as much as I can and educate people 560 00:27:15,740 --> 00:27:12,540 and and and now I still have the urge 561 00:27:18,770 --> 00:27:15,750 and the need to go further and it's like 562 00:27:22,010 --> 00:27:18,780 if it's gotta be TV I I mean whatever it 563 00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:22,020 takes to reach people I'm willing to do 564 00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:23,760 it because it's not about me it's not 565 00:27:30,380 --> 00:27:26,880 about anything but helping the souls of 566 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:30,390 people I mean how how can anybody sit by 567 00:27:35,870 --> 00:27:32,610 it and I feel like I'm getting funneled 568 00:27:37,810 --> 00:27:35,880 all of this you know so many people turn 569 00:27:40,130 --> 00:27:37,820 their backs against their their church 570 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:40,140 because they feel the church turned 571 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:42,210 their backs on them so or a lot of 572 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:43,650 people just haven't been educated in the 573 00:27:47,810 --> 00:27:45,090 church or about the church they don't 574 00:27:48,740 --> 00:27:47,820 know I don't go to church that would be 575 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:48,750 honest I don't 576 00:27:52,910 --> 00:27:50,730 I'm not terrible no it's not terrible 577 00:27:54,980 --> 00:27:52,920 cuz I was taught that my body is my 578 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:54,990 temple and that's where I worship and 579 00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:57,210 I've moved around a lot so it's like mmm 580 00:28:01,010 --> 00:27:58,770 how do you get son old and yeah I got 581 00:28:04,610 --> 00:28:01,020 all the excuses in the world but I'm 582 00:28:07,070 --> 00:28:04,620 very Christian I believe faithfully 583 00:28:11,570 --> 00:28:07,080 truly no doubts about where I stand with 584 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:11,580 things and um I just think I need to 585 00:28:16,460 --> 00:28:13,770 take a step further and try to help my 586 00:28:18,650 --> 00:28:16,470 fellow human being and and we all could 587 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:18,660 do that we all could do that and I think 588 00:28:25,250 --> 00:28:21,290 that we'd help encourage each other 589 00:28:27,170 --> 00:28:25,260 together it's showing that we're taking 590 00:28:30,110 --> 00:28:27,180 a stance together against the evil 591 00:28:31,580 --> 00:28:30,120 cuz it has to be done how else they're 592 00:28:35,570 --> 00:28:31,590 not enough priests to go around for 593 00:28:37,670 --> 00:28:35,580 crying out loud so let's let's all do 594 00:28:38,990 --> 00:28:37,680 that you know I I want to thank 595 00:28:40,910 --> 00:28:39,000 everybody for taking the time to write 596 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:40,920 me I could carry on and on about this 597 00:28:48,830 --> 00:28:46,170 topic because it really boils me it's it 598 00:28:51,470 --> 00:28:48,840 boil you all too so um you know what 599 00:28:52,490 --> 00:28:51,480 write me that's outlandish Corner at 600 00:28:56,090 --> 00:28:52,500 dusk outlet 601 00:28:58,159 --> 00:28:56,100 at gmail.com and you know what we got 602 00:28:59,390 --> 00:28:58,169 Chris Brown coming up you are listening 603 00:29:03,380 --> 00:28:59,400 to me how do you house the Outlander and 604 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:03,390 we'll be right back welcome back 605 00:29:07,220 --> 00:29:05,370 everybody you're listening to me Heidi 606 00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:07,230 Hollis the Outlander 607 00:29:12,860 --> 00:29:11,039 we are having a blast aren't we mmm just 608 00:29:15,020 --> 00:29:12,870 got over the outlandish corner and I'm 609 00:29:17,779 --> 00:29:15,030 getting to my awesome guest for this 610 00:29:21,710 --> 00:29:17,789 evening Chris Brown who is a 611 00:29:25,370 --> 00:29:21,720 stay-at-home dad father of three born 612 00:29:29,270 --> 00:29:25,380 and raised in Portland Oregon and he is 613 00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:29,280 here to share about his very unique 614 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:31,679 encounter and some of his new insights 615 00:29:36,919 --> 00:29:34,770 in regards to an encounter that he and 616 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:36,929 it was your son that also experienced 617 00:29:41,090 --> 00:29:39,450 the same kind of crack that's right yeah 618 00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:41,100 well welcome to the show once again 619 00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:43,710 crazy you you've come here a couple of 620 00:29:47,690 --> 00:29:45,750 times and we've always had a pretty good 621 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:47,700 conversation in regards to this topic 622 00:29:52,370 --> 00:29:50,370 and and you feel I remember the last 623 00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:52,380 time that we spoke like it's your 624 00:29:57,770 --> 00:29:55,110 mission to really like bring the reality 625 00:29:59,779 --> 00:29:57,780 of this other reality forward correct 626 00:30:02,840 --> 00:29:59,789 that's what I was like kind of stuck 627 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:02,850 with when you told me about that well 628 00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:05,130 yeah yeah that you're right and you know 629 00:30:09,860 --> 00:30:07,710 of course I'm the biggest thing is is 630 00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:09,870 self-preservation in my set and myself 631 00:30:15,799 --> 00:30:13,049 because it's you know me trying trying 632 00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:15,809 to help you know get get get in and a 633 00:30:20,330 --> 00:30:18,360 piece for myself in a lot of ways and by 634 00:30:22,250 --> 00:30:20,340 getting it out there and and in just to 635 00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:22,260 help other people I guess now to I guess 636 00:30:29,270 --> 00:30:24,360 that's that's another mission I'm on so 637 00:30:30,049 --> 00:30:29,280 I am Thomas fixtures almost later too by 638 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:30,059 the way 639 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:32,730 six years ago okay almost will be the 640 00:30:38,529 --> 00:30:34,890 six year anniversary next month on the 641 00:30:41,690 --> 00:30:38,539 18th in the and the 27th of August Wow 642 00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:41,700 fascinating so do do tell us give us 643 00:30:46,490 --> 00:30:43,950 some insight of what took place I mean 644 00:30:48,610 --> 00:30:46,500 paint the picture I love when details 645 00:30:51,980 --> 00:30:48,620 come forward because I like to imagine 646 00:30:54,140 --> 00:30:51,990 being that that casual person and being 647 00:30:58,370 --> 00:30:54,150 thrown into the reality of something 648 00:31:00,740 --> 00:30:58,380 said to not to be true so do tell you 649 00:31:02,790 --> 00:31:00,750 pride myself on the casual person that 650 00:31:05,340 --> 00:31:02,800 is why I'm here 651 00:31:07,140 --> 00:31:05,350 you know that's that's exactly it you 652 00:31:08,820 --> 00:31:07,150 know it's just you know I I've talked to 653 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:08,830 story a hundred times or you know I 654 00:31:13,470 --> 00:31:11,290 guess I with the encountered a tizzy you 655 00:31:15,870 --> 00:31:13,480 know on me you'll start off like what my 656 00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:15,880 was my big encounter on that on the huge 657 00:31:22,260 --> 00:31:18,640 disk you okay Kevin for the grand prize 658 00:31:26,130 --> 00:31:22,270 of 1 million dollars what color is the 659 00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:26,140 White House I know this I know this I 660 00:31:31,740 --> 00:31:29,110 know this five seconds 661 00:31:33,380 --> 00:31:31,750 Oh switching to Geico could save you a 662 00:31:43,770 --> 00:31:33,390 bunch of money on car insurance 663 00:31:45,210 --> 00:31:43,780 okay judges Geico because saving fifteen 664 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:45,220 percent or more on car insurance is 665 00:31:51,330 --> 00:31:48,250 always a great answer now on the 18th of 666 00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:51,340 August you know and that one there's big 667 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:54,310 with me because when I look at that big 668 00:32:00,840 --> 00:31:57,730 disk the huge things I described was the 669 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:00,850 glass diamond looking dome on top of it 670 00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:03,010 what was happening what happened you're 671 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:06,070 out hanging out oh yes there was out 672 00:32:11,130 --> 00:32:08,650 water in my water my yard it was it was 673 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:11,140 on the 18th of August and I was pulling 674 00:32:15,870 --> 00:32:14,530 out my hose to to do the the front yard 675 00:32:17,340 --> 00:32:15,880 and when I pull it out I had to get that 676 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:17,350 out in the street to pull the kinks out 677 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:19,890 and when I got it out in the street I 678 00:32:24,330 --> 00:32:22,570 noticed a little bit of some unusual 679 00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:24,340 lights out in the field that that were 680 00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:26,080 you know but my little neighborhood 681 00:32:31,260 --> 00:32:28,960 surrounded by nothing but fields and but 682 00:32:34,590 --> 00:32:31,270 I just didn't really take it in in 683 00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:34,600 because I you know if I had been a few 684 00:32:38,820 --> 00:32:37,120 years that I had lived there boom I 685 00:32:40,860 --> 00:32:38,830 would took it him right away it would've 686 00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:40,870 been like a wobbler there but what you 687 00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:42,070 know and then I what I had maybe more 688 00:32:47,250 --> 00:32:45,340 time to more time to sit there and look 689 00:32:50,340 --> 00:32:47,260 at what I was getting at and to call 690 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:50,350 people maybe people who take notice but 691 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:52,000 I had just been in the neighborhood just 692 00:32:59,520 --> 00:32:54,850 just you know roughly about a year 693 00:33:01,260 --> 00:32:59,530 just little worrier and so you know it 694 00:33:02,580 --> 00:33:01,270 just looked at a place at in but but it 695 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:02,590 just didn't really take it in so I 696 00:33:09,810 --> 00:33:04,570 continued to go to walk to water my yard 697 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:09,820 and and I put a bunch of weed stuff on 698 00:33:15,030 --> 00:33:12,250 my yard that day and and was trying to 699 00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:15,040 clean up my yard and and was watering it 700 00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:15,710 real good 701 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:20,240 and so I did the second half and that 702 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:23,810 was all I had probably good 20 minutes 703 00:33:30,190 --> 00:33:26,930 later and I found myself in the backyard 704 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:30,200 again and pulling myself in the out from 705 00:33:33,820 --> 00:33:32,330 the yard again into the street did to 706 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:33,830 pull out the kinks and it was a little 707 00:33:41,890 --> 00:33:38,530 bit darker than it was 9 9 o'clock p.m. 708 00:33:43,570 --> 00:33:41,900 when I went and started water so right 709 00:33:45,580 --> 00:33:43,580 about that time it was like 9 20 you 710 00:33:47,710 --> 00:33:45,590 know and then that's when I could 711 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:47,720 visibly see it so it's like around this 712 00:33:51,940 --> 00:33:49,610 time you know that I mean that the Sun 713 00:33:54,550 --> 00:33:51,950 was going down you know kind of was 714 00:33:56,170 --> 00:33:54,560 staying up late but but but kind of was 715 00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:56,180 at that point in August that kind of 716 00:33:59,320 --> 00:33:57,440 starts to go down a little bit quicker 717 00:34:00,820 --> 00:33:59,330 you know it was really starting to go 718 00:34:04,570 --> 00:34:00,830 down right at that time so then it was 719 00:34:09,850 --> 00:34:04,580 just visibly there just boom and then 720 00:34:12,940 --> 00:34:09,860 that's that's what I thought there Heidi 721 00:34:15,850 --> 00:34:12,950 for the longest time well it's real 722 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:15,860 monitoring but enough time sitting there 723 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:19,010 wondering if it was happening at that 724 00:34:25,060 --> 00:34:22,970 was the biggest thing wondering what am 725 00:34:28,030 --> 00:34:25,070 I seeing is this happening and then the 726 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:28,040 town being so dead you know I talked 727 00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:28,910 about that before 728 00:34:34,210 --> 00:34:31,910 about at this town was I mean granted 729 00:34:37,330 --> 00:34:34,220 it's a small town but it was just that 730 00:34:39,340 --> 00:34:37,340 that that one time that people are 731 00:34:40,810 --> 00:34:39,350 always out there people are always just 732 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:40,820 kind of usually out there right at that 733 00:34:45,220 --> 00:34:43,850 time water in their yards because it's 734 00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:45,230 always just that kind of that time to 735 00:34:51,070 --> 00:34:49,310 water and then people go on nightly 736 00:34:53,230 --> 00:34:51,080 strolls you know it was a nice happy 737 00:34:55,450 --> 00:34:53,240 little town I know it's people out there 738 00:34:57,130 --> 00:34:55,460 are kids and stuff and couples going on 739 00:34:58,330 --> 00:34:57,140 their nightly strolls over couples and 740 00:35:02,080 --> 00:34:58,340 stuff you know what's going around there 741 00:35:03,970 --> 00:35:02,090 we knew but nobody nobody just dead and 742 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:03,980 you know when I was sitting there 743 00:35:08,740 --> 00:35:05,690 staring because when I looked out in the 744 00:35:10,930 --> 00:35:08,750 field there was I had to look over the 745 00:35:14,590 --> 00:35:10,940 Dement the main road that goes from from 746 00:35:18,010 --> 00:35:14,600 Staton into sublimity and narrow was 747 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:18,020 just dead now maybe I was just so 748 00:35:21,370 --> 00:35:19,490 engrossed what was happening I wasn't 749 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:21,380 paying attention that the cars going by 750 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:24,890 that's that's certainly plausible but 751 00:35:30,850 --> 00:35:28,370 there just was nobody around and 752 00:35:37,180 --> 00:35:30,860 then that's like I say then that's when 753 00:35:45,630 --> 00:35:37,190 I ran well I started to run to my 754 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:45,640 neighbors and I liked him on there their 755 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:48,290 little light came on you know their 756 00:35:52,930 --> 00:35:50,810 porch light and then I stopped and I was 757 00:35:54,130 --> 00:35:52,940 what am I gonna say to these people I'm 758 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:54,140 not gonna go at me like deer in the 759 00:35:59,440 --> 00:35:56,450 headlights you know like what am I gonna 760 00:36:01,810 --> 00:35:59,450 say right I mean I you know what it like 761 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:01,820 and here it goes again if I had been in 762 00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:04,850 the neighborhood longer sure I don't 763 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:07,730 paint on the door and guys got you know 764 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:10,730 very well but you know I just didn't I 765 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:14,090 wasn't comfortable them then and so I 766 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:16,490 just went back into this street still 767 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:17,930 trying to figure out if this happening 768 00:36:31,150 --> 00:36:20,570 right yet won't go knock on the door for 769 00:36:35,170 --> 00:36:31,160 some reason and so that is when I just 770 00:36:37,150 --> 00:36:35,180 right then that this feeling of really 771 00:36:38,590 --> 00:36:37,160 kind of just like say first to looking 772 00:36:40,570 --> 00:36:38,600 at it one thing that still happened they 773 00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:40,580 started to move a little bit just a 774 00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:44,000 little bit then that's when I and then 775 00:36:49,180 --> 00:36:46,760 and then I was because I wasn't I had to 776 00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:49,190 go run to the stoplight after that to 777 00:36:55,210 --> 00:36:52,190 kind of get a closer look and but but 778 00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:55,220 right before then right as I say I got 779 00:37:04,570 --> 00:36:58,880 this feeling of hmm I guess it could I 780 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:04,580 call weightlessness weightlessness the 781 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:08,530 the everything look purplish kind of a 782 00:37:13,210 --> 00:37:11,330 bluish kind of purplish color and it 783 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:13,220 just kind of felt like a rub vibration 784 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:15,290 like that like I like that you know like 785 00:37:19,090 --> 00:37:17,330 it said this before you know if you put 786 00:37:20,650 --> 00:37:19,100 your hands sometimes vibrating really 787 00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:20,660 hard you know they have on those video 788 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:23,750 much machine games that you can always 789 00:37:27,250 --> 00:37:25,250 go you'll remember in the 80s where you 790 00:37:28,750 --> 00:37:27,260 would go and you did a damn spy around 791 00:37:30,460 --> 00:37:28,760 still somewhere and you'd put the money 792 00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:30,470 in and it vibrate really super super 793 00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:31,730 super and get harder harder and then 794 00:37:36,370 --> 00:37:33,110 however long you could hold onto it 795 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:36,380 right and almost let's kind of like that 796 00:37:39,790 --> 00:37:37,850 feeling well you're like everything was 797 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:39,800 just vibrant yet it was like a warm kind 798 00:37:44,380 --> 00:37:42,050 of a feeling but just worse 799 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:44,390 yeah just for a second and then that and 800 00:37:53,230 --> 00:37:49,370 and it well to me it felt like it was 801 00:37:56,610 --> 00:37:53,240 pulling me in I felt like as crazy as it 802 00:38:00,160 --> 00:37:56,620 sounded like it was pulling me my soul 803 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:00,170 my body mm-hmm 804 00:38:05,530 --> 00:38:02,570 that's just all I could say it just felt 805 00:38:07,870 --> 00:38:05,540 like it was sucking me in and it really 806 00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:07,880 scared me it scared me really bad and 807 00:38:15,270 --> 00:38:10,160 and the first thing I said it was Oh God 808 00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:18,430 then of course you like say oh that or 809 00:38:25,630 --> 00:38:21,430 like my typical help mommy right right 810 00:38:26,170 --> 00:38:25,640 yeah anyway but it really did it was 811 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:26,180 scary 812 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:27,770 this is where I get to everybody would 813 00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:29,450 always gets to hey Chris you won't have 814 00:38:34,270 --> 00:38:31,910 that I haven't come on Organa or oh I 815 00:38:37,780 --> 00:38:34,280 would love to have an encounter right 816 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:37,790 yeah be careful what you wish you 817 00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:40,370 because I I've been at yeah you know and 818 00:38:47,980 --> 00:38:42,800 and it really was you know the unknown 819 00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:47,990 so I might think of the Twilight Zone 820 00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:57,110 episode to serve man so anyway I was 821 00:39:00,880 --> 00:38:58,640 though I think that was the episode that 822 00:39:06,450 --> 00:39:00,890 the name of it but it was on The 823 00:39:11,410 --> 00:39:08,700 [Laughter] 824 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:11,420 but no but you know that that is what it 825 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:13,250 was so but you know and then I just got 826 00:39:19,090 --> 00:39:17,810 over it then I go over you know I you 827 00:39:20,620 --> 00:39:19,100 know because here it is still right in 828 00:39:23,020 --> 00:39:20,630 front of me I'm like oh my god this 829 00:39:24,430 --> 00:39:23,030 thing's here and first I'll be on going 830 00:39:25,870 --> 00:39:24,440 in my head oh my god I gotta get this on 831 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:25,880 video I get this on video 832 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:28,490 Holy Smoke this is gonna be here right 833 00:39:33,430 --> 00:39:30,650 this is it it's just you that's out 834 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:33,440 there looking at this manger and and it 835 00:39:38,050 --> 00:39:35,450 was so that it was like so like right 836 00:39:42,910 --> 00:39:38,060 there I mean it was crowded it was it 837 00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:42,920 was a half mile away so big I mean I 838 00:39:48,460 --> 00:39:45,710 I've never seen okay I've never seen 839 00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:48,470 anything not big before my eyes that's 840 00:39:53,390 --> 00:39:51,710 all I can say I've never seen lados like 841 00:39:56,550 --> 00:39:53,400 a football stadium 842 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:56,560 you know it takes that into a whole 843 00:40:01,160 --> 00:39:57,370 other level 844 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:01,170 okay I've never seen anything to put a 845 00:40:11,820 --> 00:40:05,530 falling object of that size the only 846 00:40:15,420 --> 00:40:11,830 thing I can I can wait it to or 847 00:40:20,730 --> 00:40:15,430 something yeah yeah I get quoted to 848 00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:20,740 would be a aircraft carrier bike about 849 00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:24,160 three or four room put together it you 850 00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:27,520 know I I personally I've seen a UFO that 851 00:40:31,740 --> 00:40:29,350 was about three football fields and and 852 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:31,750 sighs it it took up the whole sky when I 853 00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:34,330 looked up you couldn't see around it so 854 00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:36,160 I get that I really do 855 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:38,710 yeah well that was it and that's where I 856 00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:40,450 stopped off on that very beginning here 857 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:42,580 on the cool on the core on the clear 858 00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:43,810 diamond 859 00:40:50,220 --> 00:40:46,390 I call it glass but I want to throw that 860 00:40:52,980 --> 00:40:50,230 right out the window because there to me 861 00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:52,990 it looked like a diamond and and and I 862 00:40:59,840 --> 00:40:54,760 have to say that if there was anything 863 00:41:04,110 --> 00:40:59,850 on it that looked like it was a diamond 864 00:41:06,270 --> 00:41:04,120 type of stone estructure the way that it 865 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:06,280 reflected off of the mean and off of 866 00:41:10,470 --> 00:41:07,530 Czar's 867 00:41:12,540 --> 00:41:10,480 with that with that gleam that that 868 00:41:15,930 --> 00:41:12,550 glistening kind of that that Jewish 869 00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:15,940 gleam was something that that looked 870 00:41:23,090 --> 00:41:19,920 very diminished to me and it's seem very 871 00:41:26,070 --> 00:41:23,100 seem very ET for sure didn't seem 872 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:26,080 government in the sense because I could 873 00:41:32,970 --> 00:41:28,450 never I could never see anything that 874 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:32,980 that we would never have anything that 875 00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:35,890 big of a structure of a glass structure 876 00:41:41,550 --> 00:41:39,310 and if we did it would be the world's 877 00:41:45,660 --> 00:41:41,560 biggest blast structure that could ever 878 00:41:48,690 --> 00:41:45,670 be you know made so he's describing 879 00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:48,700 you're describing a bottom part was it 880 00:41:53,820 --> 00:41:51,040 was a with a saucer shape yeah the 881 00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:53,830 diamond shape on top what the diamond 882 00:42:00,960 --> 00:41:56,710 dome on top panel is that clear I mean I 883 00:42:03,870 --> 00:42:00,970 mean polished kind of looking real 884 00:42:06,990 --> 00:42:03,880 polished looking just a just a bubble 885 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:07,000 dome thing on it thanks almost 886 00:42:12,210 --> 00:42:08,890 like that like they do in the movies 887 00:42:13,830 --> 00:42:12,220 it's like eyes like the Jetsons yep just 888 00:42:16,830 --> 00:42:13,840 like the Jetsons and you know what I 889 00:42:18,030 --> 00:42:16,840 believe if they go back into where you 890 00:42:21,150 --> 00:42:18,040 have but you know we need somebody like 891 00:42:22,590 --> 00:42:21,160 Clarkson here we need somebody you know 892 00:42:24,090 --> 00:42:22,600 who are these old schools that really 893 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:24,100 can pin all these different kinds of 894 00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:27,250 down and bill burns or whoever you know 895 00:42:31,290 --> 00:42:29,710 but but that might be the very first 896 00:42:34,410 --> 00:42:31,300 ones that really have ever been reported 897 00:42:35,970 --> 00:42:34,420 I think people sing or ones that have 898 00:42:37,650 --> 00:42:35,980 that shape to them which is probably 899 00:42:41,130 --> 00:42:37,660 goes back to why they've always kind of 900 00:42:44,310 --> 00:42:41,140 used that general design in in TV what 901 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:44,320 we've always kind of seen so less than a 902 00:42:48,030 --> 00:42:46,450 lot of sunshine natural lighting I if I 903 00:42:53,010 --> 00:42:48,040 were an alien I'd want natural lighting 904 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:53,020 so I get it yeah so that's that's that's 905 00:42:58,290 --> 00:42:55,690 the biggest thing you know you I see 906 00:42:59,790 --> 00:42:58,300 that and I guess I get that so that but 907 00:43:02,070 --> 00:42:59,800 that's what gets me to think that maybe 908 00:43:03,870 --> 00:43:02,080 it wasn't anything to do with with 909 00:43:05,970 --> 00:43:03,880 government the government you know 910 00:43:09,870 --> 00:43:05,980 because the fact that the sheer size of 911 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:09,880 that and it just looks so Jewish now now 912 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:12,610 granted you know I mean who knows things 913 00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:15,370 are things are you know made big and we 914 00:43:18,870 --> 00:43:17,350 got big things that made and if they can 915 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:18,880 make anti-gravity maybe they could say 916 00:43:23,550 --> 00:43:20,490 hey we could just lift anything I 917 00:43:26,340 --> 00:43:23,560 totally get that in the sense of a free 918 00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:26,350 weightlessness that that we lift 919 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:27,760 anything and we can build these things 920 00:43:31,950 --> 00:43:29,410 underground where nobody's gonna see 921 00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:31,960 where they're gonna be made and and no 922 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:33,430 we do I have people going and taking 923 00:43:38,430 --> 00:43:35,170 tours to go see where were these big 924 00:43:40,350 --> 00:43:38,440 submarines and and and aircraft carriers 925 00:43:42,450 --> 00:43:40,360 and stuff like that or are made and 926 00:43:44,220 --> 00:43:42,460 getting all these special you know stuff 927 00:43:47,340 --> 00:43:44,230 we get on them you know those are all 928 00:43:49,410 --> 00:43:47,350 silent things those are all frames that 929 00:43:50,970 --> 00:43:49,420 are you know and so what they could else 930 00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:50,980 they could be building down in those 931 00:43:57,540 --> 00:43:54,400 areas is you know or beyond that it's 932 00:43:59,520 --> 00:43:57,550 just you know no but you know like I say 933 00:44:01,050 --> 00:43:59,530 and so anyway so I ran down there you 934 00:44:06,030 --> 00:44:01,060 know that's like say they get off topic 935 00:44:08,190 --> 00:44:06,040 a little bit there but you know so I you 936 00:44:10,350 --> 00:44:08,200 know I had boom you know I felt like 937 00:44:12,300 --> 00:44:10,360 that I was right instantly remembered 938 00:44:15,350 --> 00:44:12,310 here I'm just explaining these feelings 939 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:15,360 I instantly remembered that I had my 940 00:44:20,250 --> 00:44:19,090 ipod that I had had but the only kids 941 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:20,260 were always playing around at that time 942 00:44:23,580 --> 00:44:20,890 it's come 943 00:44:25,620 --> 00:44:23,590 new thing to me sorry but anyway so but 944 00:44:27,720 --> 00:44:25,630 I do remember how to Wi-Fi buddy that's 945 00:44:30,570 --> 00:44:27,730 about all I knew how to do and find well 946 00:44:32,310 --> 00:44:30,580 I could find the the the the video thing 947 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:32,320 a lot faster if I just had it longer 948 00:44:35,580 --> 00:44:34,210 knew what to do but I didn't not switch 949 00:44:38,250 --> 00:44:35,590 through all the little settings right so 950 00:44:39,930 --> 00:44:38,260 anyway I run down there to go try to get 951 00:44:42,150 --> 00:44:39,940 a video of the stains I go I got a 952 00:44:44,990 --> 00:44:42,160 bigger remnant right Louis I was you 953 00:44:47,820 --> 00:44:45,000 know talk about me shaking so hard yeah 954 00:44:49,710 --> 00:44:47,830 man you know I'm telling you sit here 955 00:44:53,090 --> 00:44:49,720 it's just thinkin about how you know my 956 00:44:59,930 --> 00:44:53,100 handshake I was saying shaking so hard I 957 00:45:06,510 --> 00:45:03,120 you see something that sighs floating 958 00:45:08,190 --> 00:45:06,520 silently come on down and I know I in my 959 00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:08,200 experience you know I probably always 960 00:45:17,850 --> 00:45:15,040 thought everybody but everybody got out 961 00:45:18,540 --> 00:45:17,860 here you know yeah nobody and nobody's 962 00:45:20,820 --> 00:45:18,550 around 963 00:45:23,070 --> 00:45:20,830 so what happens next so you could not 964 00:45:25,290 --> 00:45:23,080 get the the video to work Oh writing 965 00:45:26,820 --> 00:45:25,300 this thing gee well well I was I ran 966 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:26,830 down the stop sign like say trying to 967 00:45:30,660 --> 00:45:28,570 get this video of it trying to search 968 00:45:32,310 --> 00:45:30,670 around my hand shaking I finally just 969 00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:32,320 kind of gave up on that or it's been 970 00:45:35,540 --> 00:45:33,760 just still sitting there you know and 971 00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:35,550 then finally I'm just staring at it and 972 00:45:40,260 --> 00:45:38,560 and once again the town so dead nobody 973 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:40,270 going by I'm Stan thought I'd say at the 974 00:45:48,030 --> 00:45:46,210 stoplight here you know and it it moved 975 00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:48,040 back and forth from my estimate move 976 00:45:55,170 --> 00:45:50,800 back and forth from from you know I'd 977 00:45:59,400 --> 00:45:55,180 say 30 feet the first few times and then 978 00:46:00,990 --> 00:45:59,410 after that it it would Swint east toward 979 00:46:03,330 --> 00:46:01,000 the mountains and then that's you know 980 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:03,340 that's when I could see just a Sears the 981 00:46:07,260 --> 00:46:05,410 sights of anyway like to see the size of 982 00:46:09,570 --> 00:46:07,270 it it's like oh my god before but when 983 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:09,580 it like took off it was like mind me of 984 00:46:20,580 --> 00:46:18,600 mountains was it heading towards like 985 00:46:22,380 --> 00:46:20,590 where you look ahead toward well I was 986 00:46:24,530 --> 00:46:22,390 in sublimity there so it was heading 987 00:46:27,540 --> 00:46:24,540 east its hadn't actually toward an 988 00:46:33,870 --> 00:46:27,550 McCauley Mountain and I'm heading toward 989 00:46:38,940 --> 00:46:36,990 bachelor area Oh mom bachelor or pop 990 00:46:40,980 --> 00:46:38,950 popular area for those people that know 991 00:46:52,650 --> 00:46:40,990 all about skiing and all that well you 992 00:46:54,540 --> 00:46:52,660 can have okay so it looked like it was 993 00:46:57,060 --> 00:46:54,550 heading a backtrack it's actually in bin 994 00:46:59,310 --> 00:46:57,070 but it's now Mount Bachelor is the name 995 00:47:01,560 --> 00:46:59,320 but it's in Bandar cordon so anyway 996 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:01,570 headed toward McAuley mountain which is 997 00:47:09,660 --> 00:47:04,290 another mountains out there which is 998 00:47:11,580 --> 00:47:09,670 that direction and then I found myself 999 00:47:14,250 --> 00:47:11,590 you know like like say we're seeing how 1000 00:47:16,290 --> 00:47:14,260 big it is and then I went and find 1001 00:47:18,780 --> 00:47:16,300 myself running one run back to my house 1002 00:47:21,660 --> 00:47:18,790 they can I get better sight of it maybe 1003 00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:21,670 in my back yard just I don't get better 1004 00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:24,310 sliders right right i start running but 1005 00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:25,690 just as eyes and i just happen to be 1006 00:47:31,050 --> 00:47:27,310 kind of looking up at that point to 1007 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:31,060 obviously but then I seen a a like a 1008 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:34,530 star that was like directly above the 1009 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:38,530 were was in space but it was a star I 1010 00:47:41,790 --> 00:47:40,330 mean it was for all I know it could have 1011 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:41,800 been the same thing with that fast you 1012 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:45,490 know but uh it was moving just like like 1013 00:47:50,070 --> 00:47:47,530 if I took a rock and threw a rock this 1014 00:47:52,890 --> 00:47:50,080 hard in the air that's how fast is 1015 00:47:54,210 --> 00:47:52,900 moving in space but it was in space they 1016 00:47:56,460 --> 00:47:54,220 look like I'm sitting right next to the 1017 00:47:57,900 --> 00:47:56,470 star and there was a star and I it's 1018 00:47:59,610 --> 00:47:57,910 remember whoa 1019 00:48:03,840 --> 00:47:59,620 so then that's you know I'm kind of 1020 00:48:05,970 --> 00:48:03,850 in-between that I'm running back and not 1021 00:48:08,370 --> 00:48:05,980 really wave too much from the stop sign 1022 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:08,380 I guess it was when I caught that so I 1023 00:48:12,420 --> 00:48:09,970 was kind of like halfway my house when I 1024 00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:12,430 seen that and then I kind of tried to 1025 00:48:16,860 --> 00:48:14,110 run back once again and tried to get a 1026 00:48:19,650 --> 00:48:16,870 better to try to Wi-Fi again but then I 1027 00:48:21,860 --> 00:48:19,660 lost sight of it you know to my name 1028 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:21,870 getting back running back to my um my 1029 00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:25,330 driveway which was about fifty feet away 1030 00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:28,720 you know and so then I'm sitting here 1031 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:30,250 trying to figure out this darn thing to 1032 00:48:35,730 --> 00:48:33,490 Wi-Fi and looking all around and then on 1033 00:48:38,430 --> 00:48:35,740 my right-hand shoulder and it was it's 1034 00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:38,440 right at that same time being my dog 1035 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:42,640 goes inside he made a park and then this 1036 00:48:47,730 --> 00:48:45,010 craft came over the neighborhood now it 1037 00:48:49,650 --> 00:48:47,740 was smaller it wasn't as big 1038 00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:49,660 by the lights and all that from 1039 00:48:54,030 --> 00:48:51,760 underneath I'd say it was probably about 1040 00:48:56,609 --> 00:48:54,040 maybe your honor hauling about 15 feet 1041 00:48:58,170 --> 00:48:56,619 by 15 feet no so you're saying your dog 1042 00:49:00,570 --> 00:48:58,180 barked and all of a sudden a smaller 1043 00:49:02,190 --> 00:49:00,580 craft comes at you yeah we know where 1044 00:49:04,550 --> 00:49:02,200 the wood looked over the right-hand side 1045 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:04,560 of my shoulder and then it came over the 1046 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:07,570 the neighborhood flew over my house it 1047 00:49:13,980 --> 00:49:11,410 went over the neighborhood all the dogs 1048 00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:13,990 kind of just start all simultaneously 1049 00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:16,960 just kind of barked all when they had 1050 00:49:20,310 --> 00:49:18,880 everyone there had a dog and then it 1051 00:49:23,970 --> 00:49:20,320 went over to the other side of the 1052 00:49:25,950 --> 00:49:23,980 neighborhood were my friends lid and 1053 00:49:28,290 --> 00:49:25,960 kind of what's over on top of their 1054 00:49:31,650 --> 00:49:28,300 house and their dogs are barking and 1055 00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:31,660 then what did this craft look like well 1056 00:49:37,470 --> 00:49:33,609 this one I've described I'd say it's 1057 00:49:39,660 --> 00:49:37,480 about 15 by 15 feet in diameter I could 1058 00:49:41,579 --> 00:49:39,670 only tell I could just see because it 1059 00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:41,589 was it's getting real dark button in I 1060 00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:45,280 could only see it from just from 1061 00:49:51,060 --> 00:49:47,680 underneath so I couldn't get anything 1062 00:49:53,579 --> 00:49:51,070 any any real visual on it you know I 1063 00:49:56,370 --> 00:49:53,589 could just say it's almost like you know 1064 00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:56,380 we're you know the the monster or the 1065 00:50:01,140 --> 00:49:58,810 UFO comes over and it paralyzes the town 1066 00:50:03,810 --> 00:50:01,150 and and somebody's conscious and aware 1067 00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:03,820 and they accidentally kick a can and and 1068 00:50:09,150 --> 00:50:05,680 so they send out a little probe to go 1069 00:50:11,490 --> 00:50:09,160 investigate that's it's like like you 1070 00:50:13,890 --> 00:50:11,500 got caught because your dog open his 1071 00:50:15,089 --> 00:50:13,900 mouth but then all the dogs seem to like 1072 00:50:17,010 --> 00:50:15,099 my pants 1073 00:50:19,620 --> 00:50:17,020 I would have seen in anyway tell you the 1074 00:50:21,839 --> 00:50:19,630 truth I I really do because it was this 1075 00:50:28,290 --> 00:50:21,849 is like pretty much as soon as I caught 1076 00:50:31,290 --> 00:50:28,300 my to it then it then it then it was 1077 00:50:33,570 --> 00:50:31,300 then being barked so I mean it was it 1078 00:50:35,370 --> 00:50:33,580 was it's like it has been a while now I 1079 00:50:36,930 --> 00:50:35,380 guess I think it maybe it was him but I 1080 00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:36,940 mean he's like right there I mean it was 1081 00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:39,760 almost like you know both of us almost 1082 00:50:46,050 --> 00:50:42,960 at the same time caught on to it and so 1083 00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:46,060 yeah you know and so you know it just 1084 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:47,920 went over to the other end of the to the 1085 00:50:52,109 --> 00:50:50,410 neighborhood like I said and then it sat 1086 00:50:53,700 --> 00:50:52,119 there for a second it stopped it's out 1087 00:50:55,710 --> 00:50:53,710 there for a second and then it kind of 1088 00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:55,720 got bright and then it just disappeared 1089 00:51:00,810 --> 00:50:57,970 and then of course I'm the only one at 1090 00:51:04,020 --> 00:51:00,820 the house at that point in time and 1091 00:51:06,210 --> 00:51:04,030 and my wife was gone and in the family 1092 00:51:10,140 --> 00:51:06,220 and she just comes home like 10 minutes 1093 00:51:12,090 --> 00:51:10,150 I'd say ten minutes afterwards yeah 1094 00:51:13,650 --> 00:51:12,100 everybody starts flying into the 1095 00:51:15,180 --> 00:51:13,660 neighborhood right and as soon as the 1096 00:51:19,260 --> 00:51:15,190 thing takes off you know it's like Grand 1097 00:51:25,830 --> 00:51:19,270 Central Station so I don't know but 1098 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:25,840 anyway yeah you know I I one element 1099 00:51:32,550 --> 00:51:28,810 that you and I have in common besides 1100 00:51:34,980 --> 00:51:32,560 seeing monster-sized UFO as as a child I 1101 00:51:38,010 --> 00:51:34,990 had severe epilepsy and and this is 1102 00:51:40,260 --> 00:51:38,020 something it also flicks you and and I 1103 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:40,270 see a lot of strange things and I've 1104 00:51:48,210 --> 00:51:43,170 seen some major UFOs as well and and you 1105 00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:48,220 attribute your your epilepsy to whatever 1106 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:49,840 it took place like what how do you 1107 00:51:55,860 --> 00:51:53,050 connect that dot as crazy as it is I do 1108 00:52:00,600 --> 00:51:55,870 I I really believe that it that somehow 1109 00:52:02,310 --> 00:52:00,610 someway by me I have a lot of them have 1110 00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:02,320 I you know I open up a little bit about 1111 00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:04,720 my helpers I've never it's another thing 1112 00:52:09,420 --> 00:52:06,640 that feel that feels me it's a nothing 1113 00:52:12,330 --> 00:52:09,430 else need to tell my encounter to tell 1114 00:52:13,710 --> 00:52:12,340 people it's because you know like you 1115 00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:13,720 know certain people have been in my life 1116 00:52:18,930 --> 00:52:16,270 for a while and Jay notes and knows how 1117 00:52:22,610 --> 00:52:18,940 severe it is and and but I've almost 1118 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:22,620 died multiple times from it and so I 1119 00:52:28,260 --> 00:52:25,810 that's what feels me to tell my story to 1120 00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:28,270 get it out because it's just me and when 1121 00:52:33,060 --> 00:52:30,910 I if something happens to me then it is 1122 00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:33,070 but I feel that my seizures have been 1123 00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:35,650 something that that is me being able to 1124 00:52:40,890 --> 00:52:38,950 to possibly connect on another level 1125 00:52:43,470 --> 00:52:40,900 another another you know people talk 1126 00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:43,480 about them going on in their dimension 1127 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:47,440 another frequency and you know people 1128 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:49,290 with the seizures and stuff are 1129 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:51,970 completely off frequency they're they're 1130 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:53,650 not they're not tuned in they're having 1131 00:52:56,370 --> 00:52:54,970 short circuits and that's why they're 1132 00:52:59,430 --> 00:52:56,380 having seizures and things are happening 1133 00:53:00,690 --> 00:52:59,440 and and I have small wounds a lot I had 1134 00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:00,700 that's that's what I've sucked if I have 1135 00:53:05,130 --> 00:53:02,230 small ones I have big ones I have to 1136 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:05,140 maintain a diet to keep the big ones 1137 00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:08,890 away because if if I don't live on this 1138 00:53:14,470 --> 00:53:10,930 diet and I don't keep my life a certain 1139 00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:14,480 way then then things can happen 1140 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:19,520 I say yeah so anyway you know your 1141 00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:21,770 different frequency they probably were 1142 00:53:28,540 --> 00:53:24,710 not expecting the new guy who's been 1143 00:53:32,770 --> 00:53:28,550 there for less than a year to be keeping 1144 00:53:35,290 --> 00:53:32,780 keeping watch like abductions before and 1145 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:35,300 there's a new guy we forgot to tune 1146 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:38,450 things up for him well you know the 1147 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:39,890 thing of it is my thing is I was 1148 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:43,970 consistently praying for these things 1149 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:46,010 you know when I hadn't I wanted one 1150 00:53:50,170 --> 00:53:48,170 encounter persistently praying for it to 1151 00:53:52,240 --> 00:53:50,180 come back yeah I want the thing to come 1152 00:53:56,530 --> 00:53:52,250 back I want you know sitting up there 1153 00:53:59,470 --> 00:53:56,540 for my yard for four days on end laying 1154 00:54:01,720 --> 00:53:59,480 in bed at night laying in bed at night 1155 00:54:04,540 --> 00:54:01,730 wanting it to come back wishing it to 1156 00:54:06,970 --> 00:54:04,550 come back hoping wanting it to get um 1157 00:54:11,890 --> 00:54:06,980 wanting it to to come back to 1158 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:11,900 essentially do what it did and show the 1159 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:14,210 world yeah yeah you're right 1160 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:15,650 and that's that's what I that's what I 1161 00:54:19,690 --> 00:54:17,810 told everybody and that side if I told 1162 00:54:21,130 --> 00:54:19,700 you that's what I told myself I was 1163 00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:21,140 gonna tell everybody when it was 1164 00:54:24,250 --> 00:54:22,730 happening right the one I was wanting to 1165 00:54:25,780 --> 00:54:24,260 do and I but I wanted a video of course 1166 00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:25,790 right forget all the other having to do 1167 00:54:30,610 --> 00:54:28,250 with with no video and all that just my 1168 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:30,620 rankings and all that right mr. K well 1169 00:54:34,270 --> 00:54:32,930 Chris we've got to get to our next break 1170 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:34,280 you guys you're listening to me how do 1171 00:54:40,420 --> 00:54:35,690 you host the Outlander and we'll be 1172 00:54:41,770 --> 00:54:40,430 right back welcome back everybody you're 1173 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:41,780 listening to me Heidi Hollis 1174 00:54:45,850 --> 00:54:43,850 the Outlander remembering always if it's 1175 00:54:48,430 --> 00:54:45,860 weird we're here we're giving you advice 1176 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:48,440 and insight on outlandish topics I have 1177 00:54:53,770 --> 00:54:50,290 Chris Brown here who's sharing a very 1178 00:54:56,770 --> 00:54:53,780 exciting encounter that he had that is 1179 00:54:58,900 --> 00:54:56,780 not typical and it really captures the 1180 00:55:01,750 --> 00:54:58,910 imagination of what it must have been 1181 00:55:05,110 --> 00:55:01,760 like to witness such a thing and and 1182 00:55:07,780 --> 00:55:05,120 some of the possibilities about why you 1183 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:07,790 witness what you did Chris I mean to me 1184 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:11,810 it almost sounds like a mass abduction 1185 00:55:18,010 --> 00:55:14,570 or a mass infiltration of some sort that 1186 00:55:19,780 --> 00:55:18,020 the the whole town was paralyzed except 1187 00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:19,790 for you and as we said before the break 1188 00:55:27,490 --> 00:55:24,710 you have a particular medical situation 1189 00:55:28,210 --> 00:55:27,500 where you have minor seizures quite 1190 00:55:30,849 --> 00:55:28,220 often 1191 00:55:31,330 --> 00:55:30,859 so if they put the Whammy on everybody 1192 00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:31,340 else 1193 00:55:35,620 --> 00:55:33,920 you would have been that that one out of 1194 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:35,630 the crowd that could have broke the 1195 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:38,450 whammy because you are not on the same 1196 00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:42,050 frequency as other people yeah you know 1197 00:55:45,099 --> 00:55:43,369 I always kind of like to ever think of 1198 00:55:49,839 --> 00:55:45,109 the reversal like they did something 1199 00:55:50,980 --> 00:55:49,849 with me so that the town the town 1200 00:55:52,359 --> 00:55:50,990 probably was just going straight 1201 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:52,369 everybody was probably just doing 1202 00:55:57,099 --> 00:55:54,410 whatever thing they did and maybe it was 1203 00:56:04,510 --> 00:55:57,109 on my end I'm perceiving what out of the 1204 00:56:07,270 --> 00:56:04,520 matrix that's that's another angle to 1205 00:56:09,550 --> 00:56:07,280 look at it my goodness you know there's 1206 00:56:12,180 --> 00:56:09,560 a couple of questions that were put in 1207 00:56:16,810 --> 00:56:12,190 the chat room and MJ was kind enough to 1208 00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:16,820 translate they were asking if if 1209 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:19,010 whatever took place with whatever 1210 00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:21,170 whoever was flying this craft if you 1211 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:23,690 felt that it communicated with you in 1212 00:56:32,020 --> 00:56:27,530 any way and how so and did any other 1213 00:56:35,050 --> 00:56:32,030 strange events happen afterwards you 1214 00:56:37,089 --> 00:56:35,060 know I I felt they did can communicate 1215 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:37,099 you know to get more into my to my car 1216 00:56:44,290 --> 00:56:38,930 and we don't have too much of time but 1217 00:56:47,589 --> 00:56:44,300 on the encounter with the orb I feel 1218 00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:47,599 like it did have the the it communicated 1219 00:56:53,770 --> 00:56:50,089 with me and it wasn't you know sky I 1220 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:53,780 know what you talked about and you know 1221 00:56:58,660 --> 00:56:56,450 how you you it you felt it talk to you 1222 00:57:00,700 --> 00:56:58,670 and and you could when it was there and 1223 00:57:04,359 --> 00:57:00,710 how yet so the feelings that you got and 1224 00:57:10,210 --> 00:57:04,369 and mine was a little bit different than 1225 00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:10,220 that mine was in the sense almost mmm I 1226 00:57:14,140 --> 00:57:12,290 could say winning orbits right there and 1227 00:57:16,060 --> 00:57:14,150 it was happening it was time slowed down 1228 00:57:17,740 --> 00:57:16,070 for everything of course I would make 1229 00:57:19,540 --> 00:57:17,750 such a huge thing of course you of 1230 00:57:21,630 --> 00:57:19,550 course it's like a car accident or 1231 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:21,640 anything it's just content slows down 1232 00:57:32,290 --> 00:57:30,290 but it I I wasn't it really it was the 1233 00:57:35,020 --> 00:57:32,300 following days I was really just not a 1234 00:57:39,070 --> 00:57:35,030 UFO guy when any of this hit I mean I 1235 00:57:41,780 --> 00:57:39,080 have this it mean it hit a fool it hit 1236 00:57:43,910 --> 00:57:41,790 somebody who you mentioned 1237 00:57:47,540 --> 00:57:43,920 anything do you fo an only thing I could 1238 00:57:51,260 --> 00:57:47,550 say at this point was was my was was was 1239 00:57:53,060 --> 00:57:51,270 the television show UFO Hunters with my 1240 00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:53,070 with my when therefore with our friend 1241 00:57:57,890 --> 00:57:55,920 bill birnes alright and and you know and 1242 00:57:59,960 --> 00:57:57,900 to know that he's you know I I know I am 1243 00:58:02,210 --> 00:57:59,970 I could call him a acquaintance and and 1244 00:58:04,010 --> 00:58:02,220 and and I know them personally he's 1245 00:58:06,410 --> 00:58:04,020 incredible thing to me just you know and 1246 00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:06,420 he knows my encounter because that's 1247 00:58:08,780 --> 00:58:07,680 what I wanted the very first thing what 1248 00:58:09,890 --> 00:58:08,790 happened I got to go to hole this guy 1249 00:58:10,550 --> 00:58:09,900 just never thought that would ever 1250 00:58:12,830 --> 00:58:10,560 happen 1251 00:58:14,900 --> 00:58:12,840 and it's just bad are just perseverance 1252 00:58:17,660 --> 00:58:14,910 to keep going to keep going but anyway 1253 00:58:19,430 --> 00:58:17,670 um you know wasn't like I said it goes 1254 00:58:21,350 --> 00:58:19,440 to the fact that what me was a few days 1255 00:58:23,420 --> 00:58:21,360 afterwards when I felt it spoke to me 1256 00:58:28,310 --> 00:58:23,430 and it spoke to me after the fact that I 1257 00:58:32,210 --> 00:58:28,320 had gotten very I've gotten very sick I 1258 00:58:35,290 --> 00:58:32,220 gotten very sick was about two days 1259 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:35,300 after the encounter and my wife my mom 1260 00:58:40,220 --> 00:58:37,650 and people around me thought that maybe 1261 00:58:42,530 --> 00:58:40,230 I was poisoned from from the encounter 1262 00:58:45,110 --> 00:58:42,540 she know I fought that I got something 1263 00:58:48,110 --> 00:58:45,120 from it like radiation poisoning what 1264 00:58:51,050 --> 00:58:48,120 was it what were your symptoms nauseated 1265 00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:51,060 super sick I was so sick I I couldn't 1266 00:58:55,100 --> 00:58:53,040 even I couldn't even move I was just 1267 00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:55,110 throwing up consistently throwing up 1268 00:59:00,020 --> 00:58:58,050 consistently but the MUFON people had 1269 00:59:04,580 --> 00:59:00,030 came over the MUFON people had already 1270 00:59:06,350 --> 00:59:04,590 came over and and they did there they 1271 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:06,360 did there and you because I called him 1272 00:59:10,310 --> 00:59:08,010 right away after the second encounter 1273 00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:10,320 cuz I kind of had already had leads on 1274 00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:12,240 kind of Hootie who's going for and I 1275 00:59:15,110 --> 00:59:13,920 finally found out about MUFON like like 1276 00:59:16,700 --> 00:59:15,120 the next day after it happened or 1277 00:59:18,110 --> 00:59:16,710 something so I called him like that 1278 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:18,120 following day or I don't know where I 1279 00:59:21,530 --> 00:59:20,130 found out seems I found out and they 1280 00:59:24,140 --> 00:59:21,540 came over like that following day after 1281 00:59:26,300 --> 00:59:24,150 that I told him and but then it was like 1282 00:59:28,580 --> 00:59:26,310 a day or so was a few days after that I 1283 00:59:32,510 --> 00:59:28,590 guess but I got sick and but when I woke 1284 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:32,520 up things I just I can't understand it 1285 00:59:36,530 --> 00:59:34,530 it's still odd it's still bizarre still 1286 00:59:40,850 --> 00:59:36,540 don't just oh just tell us we went to 1287 00:59:43,370 --> 00:59:40,860 here you're talking to the queen of 1288 00:59:45,260 --> 00:59:43,380 bizarre it's all I know I just it was 1289 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:45,270 just weird because the way that things 1290 00:59:51,590 --> 00:59:48,690 were in my head because I didn't it was 1291 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:51,600 like it simplified everything for me it 1292 00:59:54,370 --> 00:59:53,610 like really presented me as sensing gave 1293 00:59:57,340 --> 00:59:54,380 me a 1294 01:00:00,040 --> 00:59:57,350 of something what special I guess that I 1295 01:00:01,630 --> 01:00:00,050 seen I witnessed because to me it when 1296 01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:01,640 it first happened I was just telling 1297 01:00:06,340 --> 01:00:03,770 people about it and it was an incredible 1298 01:00:09,670 --> 01:00:06,350 thing or whatever but I didn't grasp the 1299 01:00:11,980 --> 01:00:09,680 detail and what exactly I like it you 1300 01:00:13,870 --> 01:00:11,990 know I just because you know mine's a 1301 01:00:15,490 --> 01:00:13,880 detailed encounter as you know and and 1302 01:00:17,350 --> 01:00:15,500 it was just right there six feet from us 1303 01:00:18,430 --> 01:00:17,360 and I could see perfectly inside of it 1304 01:00:20,740 --> 01:00:18,440 and it was like I'm looking at the 1305 01:00:22,750 --> 01:00:20,750 chatter so this is you're talking about 1306 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:22,760 the the second walk honor we didn't get 1307 01:00:30,190 --> 01:00:28,130 into that second and catch up with what 1308 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:30,200 or what I would open a little work yeah 1309 01:00:33,490 --> 01:00:31,970 that was like I say it was been you know 1310 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:33,500 that the after the first encounter 1311 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:35,570 everybody I had been out there I've been 1312 01:00:39,790 --> 01:00:37,610 waiting for for the same to come back I 1313 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:39,800 told all the neighbors I'd walked around 1314 01:00:44,740 --> 01:00:41,810 talking to neighbors couldn't find 1315 01:00:48,310 --> 01:00:44,750 anybody talk to two to the one neighbor 1316 01:00:50,740 --> 01:00:48,320 on there on the on the left-hand side 1317 01:00:52,570 --> 01:00:50,750 that I was gonna run over their house I 1318 01:00:54,790 --> 01:00:52,580 actually did tell them afterwards and 1319 01:00:56,380 --> 01:00:54,800 then he and Chuck says well cursive 1320 01:00:58,900 --> 01:00:56,390 playing gonna happen do you don't expect 1321 01:01:00,430 --> 01:00:58,910 that day he took me in and you know 1322 01:01:02,310 --> 01:01:00,440 because he had said he had seen some 1323 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:02,320 somewhere lights he's a big hunter and 1324 01:01:06,730 --> 01:01:04,730 so he took me in baby he says well don't 1325 01:01:08,860 --> 01:01:06,740 expect that to happen again crest all 1326 01:01:10,750 --> 01:01:08,870 right so what happened what happened so 1327 01:01:13,150 --> 01:01:10,760 so anyway and then I told the neighbor 1328 01:01:14,650 --> 01:01:13,160 on the other side there right next my 1329 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:14,660 sandwiched in between hims I told the 1330 01:01:17,740 --> 01:01:16,490 other neighborhoods my age and her she 1331 01:01:20,890 --> 01:01:17,750 went told her daughter and their 1332 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:20,900 daughter came over and said my friend 1333 01:01:25,540 --> 01:01:22,490 seen the same disc that night to a 1334 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:25,550 McCauley Mountain amazing yeah so there 1335 01:01:29,590 --> 01:01:27,170 would get to that real quick so anyway 1336 01:01:31,420 --> 01:01:29,600 so here it is I've been out there 1337 01:01:32,860 --> 01:01:31,430 waiting water in my yard for hovering 1338 01:01:35,500 --> 01:01:32,870 bidets waiting for this thing to come 1339 01:01:36,790 --> 01:01:35,510 back out there had my boy out there and 1340 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:36,800 the kids out there I had the wife out 1341 01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:38,330 there water and wasn't but with the 1342 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:39,890 video camera Ron I had the video camera 1343 01:01:45,250 --> 01:01:41,930 this time just rolling my water night 1344 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:45,260 one of my art video camera and finding 1345 01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:47,970 out what it was Saturday night okay 1346 01:01:55,220 --> 01:01:50,640 for the grand prize of 1 million dollars 1347 01:01:58,550 --> 01:01:55,230 what color is the White House I know 1348 01:01:59,300 --> 01:01:58,560 this I know this I know this five 1349 01:02:01,940 --> 01:01:59,310 seconds 1350 01:02:03,580 --> 01:02:01,950 Oh switching to Geico could save you a 1351 01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:03,590 bunch of money on car insurance 1352 01:02:14,630 --> 01:02:11,810 okay judges that's true congratulations 1353 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:14,640 Geico because saving 15% or more on car 1354 01:02:21,820 --> 01:02:16,770 insurance is always a great answer 1355 01:02:27,109 --> 01:02:24,620 it was almost midnight and I guess it 1356 01:02:29,630 --> 01:02:27,119 was and so I had to go out there in 1357 01:02:31,730 --> 01:02:29,640 water and it was been Saturday then and 1358 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:31,740 so i drugged my boy out because it was 1359 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:33,090 summertime the kids are out late 1360 01:02:42,620 --> 01:02:40,290 watching yes anyway and so I had my boy 1361 01:02:46,070 --> 01:02:42,630 up there watching and you don't kind of 1362 01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:46,080 keep a sky watch for me and so well he 1363 01:02:49,820 --> 01:02:47,760 was wanting to go in and didn't look you 1364 01:02:51,980 --> 01:02:49,830 know and and we're out there ten minutes 1365 01:02:53,390 --> 01:02:51,990 or so and and I kind of hurried up I 1366 01:02:54,530 --> 01:02:53,400 said well okay cold mice I guess it 1367 01:02:57,349 --> 01:02:54,540 don't look like we're gonna see anything 1368 01:02:59,300 --> 01:02:57,359 tonight and I walked up to the curb 1369 01:03:01,640 --> 01:02:59,310 where he was and I and I and I dropped 1370 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:01,650 the hose and like a drop of water first 1371 01:03:06,230 --> 01:03:04,010 maybe you know drop the hose now and 1372 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:06,240 I'll turn off the camera and I put in my 1373 01:03:08,900 --> 01:03:07,650 pocket and that's why I say okay well 1374 01:03:11,210 --> 01:03:08,910 they look like we're gonna see the night 1375 01:03:15,230 --> 01:03:11,220 cold and then they both of us just turn 1376 01:03:17,990 --> 01:03:15,240 around and that's when this pop behind 1377 01:03:20,089 --> 01:03:18,000 us a with the flash we just turned 1378 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:20,099 around just right there I just saw I 1379 01:03:24,890 --> 01:03:22,410 mean you know instantly it just was like 1380 01:03:26,750 --> 01:03:24,900 a transformer went out at the same time 1381 01:03:27,859 --> 01:03:26,760 you know just happened to be at the same 1382 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:27,869 time or something maybe someone's 1383 01:03:32,570 --> 01:03:31,050 shooting off a firework yeah yeah but it 1384 01:03:34,790 --> 01:03:32,580 pretty quickly came into shape what it 1385 01:03:37,099 --> 01:03:34,800 was and that was all I can say it was 1386 01:03:40,190 --> 01:03:37,109 just like a bubble a bubble but it was 1387 01:03:42,650 --> 01:03:40,200 like a magnetic type of if you can think 1388 01:03:44,990 --> 01:03:42,660 of a just a soap bubble but being a 1389 01:03:48,349 --> 01:03:45,000 magnetic when the outside of it was like 1390 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:48,359 fire white like night electrical yellow 1391 01:03:54,380 --> 01:03:51,690 kind of a yellowish kind of a color I 1392 01:03:56,930 --> 01:03:54,390 guess not really white but anyway in how 1393 01:04:01,079 --> 01:03:56,940 big was this thing I took five feet and 1394 01:04:03,809 --> 01:04:01,089 five feet button diameter and it was 1395 01:04:06,899 --> 01:04:03,819 bright-yellow you said on the outside of 1396 01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:06,909 it and then on the inside of it it had 1397 01:04:13,859 --> 01:04:11,529 mixed in like teal color like a and then 1398 01:04:17,159 --> 01:04:13,869 inside of it was all this golden dust 1399 01:04:18,569 --> 01:04:17,169 that was swarming oh hell man there's so 1400 01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:18,579 much of it it was but it was like a 1401 01:04:22,199 --> 01:04:19,569 bunch of bees 1402 01:04:25,439 --> 01:04:22,209 I really felt this is where the living 1403 01:04:27,630 --> 01:04:25,449 computer within the orb because that 1404 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:27,640 stuff felt like a living computer to me 1405 01:04:35,009 --> 01:04:29,890 that was floating around this Center 1406 01:04:37,589 --> 01:04:35,019 it's this this this this this clear ball 1407 01:04:39,059 --> 01:04:37,599 sphere to me once again it looked like a 1408 01:04:40,439 --> 01:04:39,069 diamond which was Colton who was the 1409 01:04:41,669 --> 01:04:40,449 very first one to say that it looked 1410 01:04:44,969 --> 01:04:41,679 like a dying man named it's one that 1411 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:44,979 brought up that word yeah and and in the 1412 01:04:49,890 --> 01:04:47,650 center of it had a cherry red liquid and 1413 01:04:51,539 --> 01:04:49,900 it was spinning backwards what's going 1414 01:04:52,769 --> 01:04:51,549 for it just like ah bright cyan always 1415 01:04:55,169 --> 01:04:52,779 did with the spinning you know that 1416 01:04:57,359 --> 01:04:55,179 counterclockwise yeah red with the red 1417 01:04:59,370 --> 01:04:57,369 cherry glowing now we couldn't see that 1418 01:05:01,380 --> 01:04:59,380 it was in a tear drop shape until it 1419 01:05:08,669 --> 01:05:01,390 went spinning away from us we could see 1420 01:05:11,489 --> 01:05:08,679 it and mm-hmm I guess by about 15 feet 1421 01:05:15,299 --> 01:05:11,499 away from us yeah for some reason I 1422 01:05:18,809 --> 01:05:15,309 imagine a giant ping-pong ball below us 1423 01:05:21,539 --> 01:05:18,819 going on the inside of it well I guess I 1424 01:05:24,479 --> 01:05:21,549 guess yeah you know I mean it just was 1425 01:05:26,370 --> 01:05:24,489 it just looked like a clear ball but 1426 01:05:28,140 --> 01:05:26,380 wouldn't that with like a magnetic 1427 01:05:31,319 --> 01:05:28,150 bubble around it with all this golden 1428 01:05:33,779 --> 01:05:31,329 duster on it and it had the red liquid 1429 01:05:37,169 --> 01:05:33,789 in the middle of the clear ball that was 1430 01:05:40,049 --> 01:05:37,179 like the power of the whole thing like a 1431 01:05:42,390 --> 01:05:40,059 nothing but a just a big inner energy 1432 01:05:43,649 --> 01:05:42,400 ball that was just completely electing 1433 01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:43,659 me you know it looked so radioactive 1434 01:05:48,149 --> 01:05:45,609 that power and there like it was just 1435 01:05:50,699 --> 01:05:48,159 thank you you drew a picture of this 1436 01:05:54,870 --> 01:05:50,709 thing and you put it on Facebook correct 1437 01:05:56,459 --> 01:05:54,880 I did I did and I and oh just to let 1438 01:05:58,109 --> 01:05:56,469 people know that they can go on to 1439 01:06:00,599 --> 01:05:58,119 inception radio network and go to the 1440 01:06:03,209 --> 01:06:00,609 Outlanders show as an archive we'll have 1441 01:06:05,489 --> 01:06:03,219 a link to this so you can have a look at 1442 01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:05,499 the drawing and go to the Facebook page 1443 01:06:12,569 --> 01:06:10,089 there yeah and I give you a also a link 1444 01:06:14,790 --> 01:06:12,579 to my facebook page to your people are 1445 01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:14,800 welcome to like if you if you want I'm 1446 01:06:25,710 --> 01:06:17,440 I'm almost the 400 likes maybe I'll get 1447 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:25,720 there hear this welcome to like and some 1448 01:06:30,890 --> 01:06:27,610 of you in here a couple of you in here I 1449 01:06:34,859 --> 01:06:30,900 know I already like it so um yeah so 1450 01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:34,869 facebook.com backslash the - sublimity - 1451 01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:39,130 close encounter a close - encounter just 1452 01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:40,720 some people can check that out so yeah 1453 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:43,090 so you saw this you and your son I'm 1454 01:06:47,609 --> 01:06:45,490 looking at this so we're looking at your 1455 01:06:50,390 --> 01:06:47,619 cameras in your pocket in the pocket 1456 01:06:52,500 --> 01:06:50,400 haven't pulled it out yet what do you do 1457 01:06:53,609 --> 01:06:52,510 I call this world what should have been 1458 01:06:56,460 --> 01:06:53,619 shooting back out she'd been just 1459 01:06:59,609 --> 01:06:56,470 hanging on my wrist so what did you do 1460 01:07:02,670 --> 01:06:59,619 what happened well so I ended up going 1461 01:07:05,130 --> 01:07:02,680 and like I say it just went we're 1462 01:07:07,590 --> 01:07:05,140 spinning away about 15 3 on us and then 1463 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:07,600 it just sat there and then like say I'm 1464 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:09,850 just that's when I should have been you 1465 01:07:15,150 --> 01:07:12,130 know I mean man it wasn't there for 1466 01:07:17,580 --> 01:07:15,160 probably I'd say another 3 4 seconds up 1467 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:17,590 at the Barry I don't even say that I had 1468 01:07:23,580 --> 01:07:20,290 suggest couple seconds you know the most 1469 01:07:27,540 --> 01:07:23,590 and then it's sponge or I diagonally 1470 01:07:30,990 --> 01:07:27,550 away but another 6 7 feet and it hit the 1471 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:31,000 iron plate manhole cover on the road and 1472 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:36,010 then it it it just arced it just was 1473 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:37,690 gonna made the same popping noise that 1474 01:07:41,099 --> 01:07:39,250 it did when it showed up and it made 1475 01:07:43,410 --> 01:07:41,109 little sparkler rolled around on there 1476 01:07:45,390 --> 01:07:43,420 and played manhole cover and then then 1477 01:07:49,500 --> 01:07:45,400 there's a power pole that was right 1478 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:49,510 there and there's a there went also a 1479 01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:51,250 power line that went across into the 1480 01:07:57,450 --> 01:07:52,930 little cul-de-sac that was right there - 1481 01:08:00,060 --> 01:07:57,460 and I had sparks that flew off the 1482 01:08:01,980 --> 01:08:00,070 transformer you know so I don't say it 1483 01:08:03,930 --> 01:08:01,990 was just gone and now this happened a 1484 01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:03,940 couple days after you saw the big ship 1485 01:08:14,570 --> 01:08:06,970 yeah that was 11 days after 11 days Wow 1486 01:08:17,820 --> 01:08:14,580 yeah and so yeah and and so you know I 1487 01:08:20,010 --> 01:08:17,830 went and my wife's friend came out right 1488 01:08:22,530 --> 01:08:20,020 after that and I thought oh they seen it 1489 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:22,540 well no they didn't see it then she just 1490 01:08:28,170 --> 01:08:24,970 was leaving and well I did tell her we 1491 01:08:28,440 --> 01:08:28,180 said something but gosh you know just it 1492 01:08:37,820 --> 01:08:28,450 just 1493 01:08:40,950 --> 01:08:37,830 really didn't I don't know I I guess 1494 01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:40,960 yeah I was in a wooden how was your son 1495 01:08:48,810 --> 01:08:45,370 reacting well he was his first thing was 1496 01:08:52,440 --> 01:08:48,820 whoa and both of us at the at the same 1497 01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:52,450 time and how old is he when that 1498 01:09:00,060 --> 01:08:57,730 happened well he's now he's now 15 so 1499 01:09:01,890 --> 01:09:00,070 and he was 19 when it happened 1500 01:09:03,210 --> 01:09:01,900 amazing I'm sure he remembers it like it 1501 01:09:06,060 --> 01:09:03,220 was yesterday it's one of those things 1502 01:09:07,350 --> 01:09:06,070 you wouldn't forget Wow so this thing 1503 01:09:11,910 --> 01:09:07,360 took off did it go in the same direction 1504 01:09:14,130 --> 01:09:11,920 as that made the big ship well it took 1505 01:09:18,510 --> 01:09:14,140 off so fast I just don't know I mean it 1506 01:09:22,950 --> 01:09:18,520 was just gone I ended up hit the manhole 1507 01:09:26,340 --> 01:09:22,960 hit the fire the electric pole it took 1508 01:09:31,970 --> 01:09:26,350 off yep what's going about this is 1509 01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:31,980 amazing Wow and so I I had heard you 1510 01:09:37,740 --> 01:09:34,150 know like I say my wife you know she 1511 01:09:39,330 --> 01:09:37,750 went she came over and Frankie my ID 1512 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:39,340 like we said we didn't say anything cuz 1513 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:42,010 we're just like so then she got in her 1514 01:09:46,050 --> 01:09:43,930 car and she took I said something it 1515 01:09:47,610 --> 01:09:46,060 just wasn't I don't know it just didn't 1516 01:09:51,480 --> 01:09:47,620 what didn't really stick with her so she 1517 01:09:52,890 --> 01:09:51,490 ended up going and she takes off well 1518 01:09:55,980 --> 01:09:52,900 then the neighbour girl comes home they 1519 01:09:57,810 --> 01:09:55,990 had her friend seen the UFO yeah 1520 01:09:59,130 --> 01:09:57,820 right at the same time and I'm like oh 1521 01:10:00,180 --> 01:09:59,140 my god Briana you weren't gonna believe 1522 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:00,190 it and here we are sitting there 1523 01:10:06,810 --> 01:10:02,050 chit-chatting about it and then all of a 1524 01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:06,820 sudden this streak in front of us and we 1525 01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:09,040 clearly see it was it was it was streak 1526 01:10:16,890 --> 01:10:14,800 of a disc and she her and I like wow and 1527 01:10:20,010 --> 01:10:16,900 my boys like Colton's like whoa well 1528 01:10:22,470 --> 01:10:20,020 that one that disc was over the neighbor 1529 01:10:24,030 --> 01:10:22,480 the neighbor's house 40 feet above and 1530 01:10:25,890 --> 01:10:24,040 Colton could see inside of it and he 1531 01:10:27,450 --> 01:10:25,900 wrote his and that's where you see his 1532 01:10:30,570 --> 01:10:27,460 picture of his drawings and stuff like 1533 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:30,580 that on the Sunda on Buffon report 1534 01:10:35,460 --> 01:10:33,610 anyway and so you know the go on I read 1535 01:10:37,260 --> 01:10:35,470 and chat about afterwards about 10 1536 01:10:39,780 --> 01:10:37,270 minutes afterwards I did hear some some 1537 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:39,790 helicopters I couldn't see you know it's 1538 01:10:44,180 --> 01:10:41,010 heard 1539 01:10:47,900 --> 01:10:44,190 and you know and then I I did I did 1540 01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:47,910 happen to - you know when I called MUFON 1541 01:10:53,210 --> 01:10:49,440 and stuff everything worked real well on 1542 01:10:55,940 --> 01:10:53,220 my phone and all that but after after I 1543 01:10:58,130 --> 01:10:55,950 record after I called MUFON that's when 1544 01:10:59,960 --> 01:10:58,140 my phone guy he where everything went 1545 01:11:04,340 --> 01:10:59,970 good let's talk about my encounters and 1546 01:11:05,870 --> 01:11:04,350 then all of a sudden I got to that 1547 01:11:08,090 --> 01:11:05,880 second one I started talking with detail 1548 01:11:11,570 --> 01:11:08,100 there and also my phone right write it 1549 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:11,580 out on me and had it at a black suburban 1550 01:11:17,570 --> 01:11:13,890 that kept cutting out on me it did that 1551 01:11:20,990 --> 01:11:17,580 on my first radio show when I first went 1552 01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:21,000 on was the Kevin Smith Kevin Smith show 1553 01:11:26,990 --> 01:11:22,560 by the way arrested piece Kevin Smith 1554 01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:27,000 yeah and I hits one of those shows and 1555 01:11:34,970 --> 01:11:30,000 also here on one of the shows that was 1556 01:11:37,250 --> 01:11:34,980 on this network and so this is it was 1557 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:37,260 something happened I went on for like 1558 01:11:44,470 --> 01:11:41,210 say probably a good few weeks you know 1559 01:11:46,820 --> 01:11:44,480 you know after the encounter and then or 1560 01:11:50,780 --> 01:11:46,830 maybe a month and then I had a weird 1561 01:11:54,830 --> 01:11:50,790 suburban come by my house up Yemen the 1562 01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:54,840 neighbor over to - two houses over was 1563 01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:56,400 that was the lead mechanic from the 1564 01:11:59,990 --> 01:11:57,810 Chevy dealership right in my backyard 1565 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:00,000 there what's he doing home some cars 1566 01:12:03,140 --> 01:12:01,650 every now and then you know maybe some 1567 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:03,150 suburban or something he was working on 1568 01:12:06,440 --> 01:12:04,530 he was a leading the can up there you 1569 01:12:08,750 --> 01:12:06,450 know and he at lunchtime he was coming 1570 01:12:12,410 --> 01:12:08,760 home at lunch and I thought maybe it was 1571 01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:12,420 him but it was you know go normal speeds 1572 01:12:17,330 --> 01:12:14,610 it was all black I had all tenant out 1573 01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:17,340 windows and as soon as it got right to 1574 01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:21,090 the bretton where I was at in the front 1575 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:23,130 yard I was doing yard work it went super 1576 01:12:30,050 --> 01:12:27,330 slow creepingly slow yeah you all a just 1577 01:12:32,620 --> 01:12:30,060 kind of going past mouths so you're 1578 01:12:35,540 --> 01:12:32,630 under surveillance 1579 01:12:37,250 --> 01:12:35,550 it's that up it sped up to go real fast 1580 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:37,260 just to go there and flip eue 1581 01:12:41,660 --> 01:12:39,930 to come to come back down again and to 1582 01:12:44,570 --> 01:12:41,670 go just normal speed until it hit back 1583 01:12:45,710 --> 01:12:44,580 me again and so I caught on to it by 1584 01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:45,720 that time so that's getting all these 1585 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:47,610 you know my phone was messing up and all 1586 01:12:50,750 --> 01:12:49,170 that but I just gave him a crappy look 1587 01:12:52,459 --> 01:12:50,760 on the wave definitely it sounds like 1588 01:12:54,410 --> 01:12:52,469 you're you're under surveillance you 1589 01:12:58,160 --> 01:12:54,420 know we don't have much time I wanted a 1590 01:13:00,410 --> 01:12:58,170 ask you do you feel that you you may 1591 01:13:02,510 --> 01:13:00,420 have had a closer encounter than you 1592 01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:02,520 recall that you might be able to get 1593 01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:05,280 into hypnosis to reveal have you ever 1594 01:13:10,100 --> 01:13:08,370 considered it all about 1/2 I have 1595 01:13:12,380 --> 01:13:10,110 considered it's just it's been kind of a 1596 01:13:14,780 --> 01:13:12,390 you know I don't know it's many thing 1597 01:13:16,580 --> 01:13:14,790 and and also I'm afraid I'm afraid I'm 1598 01:13:18,430 --> 01:13:16,590 afraid that it's been stressful deal 1599 01:13:23,030 --> 01:13:18,440 it's been really hard for me to let go 1600 01:13:25,580 --> 01:13:23,040 yeah I feel like and I and I am 1601 01:13:27,530 --> 01:13:25,590 skeptical on some of those those things 1602 01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:27,540 myself but who knows but I feel that if 1603 01:13:31,669 --> 01:13:29,730 I did know anything more happened then 1604 01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:31,679 the net would just stressed me out more 1605 01:13:38,229 --> 01:13:35,330 and I would dwell on it more and mm-hmm 1606 01:13:41,390 --> 01:13:38,239 more answers but some people do 1607 01:13:43,220 --> 01:13:41,400 definitely have more problems 1608 01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:43,230 post-traumatic stress disorder for 1609 01:13:47,540 --> 01:13:45,600 example but then others sometimes feel 1610 01:13:49,820 --> 01:13:47,550 relief that they got answers that they 1611 01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:49,830 don't feel as confused about what took 1612 01:13:55,459 --> 01:13:52,530 place or they may have seen military 1613 01:13:58,189 --> 01:13:55,469 people involved in a mass abduction I I 1614 01:14:00,560 --> 01:13:58,199 knew someone that had witnessed a whole 1615 01:14:02,540 --> 01:14:00,570 neighborhood being abducted while they 1616 01:14:04,250 --> 01:14:02,550 watched they were a kid and they were 1617 01:14:07,310 --> 01:14:04,260 the only one that weren't affected I 1618 01:14:09,229 --> 01:14:07,320 mean how horrifying but yeah so it's 1619 01:14:10,820 --> 01:14:09,239 definitely could be something that would 1620 01:14:12,979 --> 01:14:10,830 you know change your life forever to be 1621 01:14:15,290 --> 01:14:12,989 in the know it for myself you know I 1622 01:14:17,419 --> 01:14:15,300 used to be terrified of things in the 1623 01:14:19,370 --> 01:14:17,429 dark as well you know like you know what 1624 01:14:21,830 --> 01:14:19,380 may happen because I was seeing things 1625 01:14:24,140 --> 01:14:21,840 that a lot of people weren't describing 1626 01:14:26,510 --> 01:14:24,150 in their daily lives and once I got over 1627 01:14:28,580 --> 01:14:26,520 that fear like a whole world of 1628 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:28,590 information came my way and the good 1629 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:31,770 came through the darkness and that's 1630 01:14:36,740 --> 01:14:33,810 what I tend to focus on more than 1631 01:14:40,790 --> 01:14:36,750 anything so I I get it so do you feel 1632 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:40,800 that you may indeed be in contact with 1633 01:14:51,310 --> 01:14:45,010 something still or ever again 1634 01:14:54,550 --> 01:14:51,320 well I don't know IIIi I feel like no 1635 01:14:57,220 --> 01:14:54,560 but then again I I kind of I I still 1636 01:14:59,140 --> 01:14:57,230 watch where I go outside I still look 1637 01:15:01,660 --> 01:14:59,150 like if I'm afraid to look I look up in 1638 01:15:06,460 --> 01:15:01,670 the air for a long time I'm afraid to - 1639 01:15:08,530 --> 01:15:06,470 I'm still it's mmm wounded so I'm really 1640 01:15:10,180 --> 01:15:08,540 I still AM wounded a little bit even 1641 01:15:12,970 --> 01:15:10,190 though I moved and I'm in the middle of 1642 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:12,980 a city now I'm not in this just 1643 01:15:25,180 --> 01:15:20,210 beautiful you know God's Mother Nature 1644 01:15:27,940 --> 01:15:25,190 right yeah yeah Wow so so you do suffer 1645 01:15:29,740 --> 01:15:27,950 a bit from a little PTSD you saw 1646 01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:29,750 something that traumatized your world 1647 01:15:34,660 --> 01:15:31,610 and and like you said you've become 1648 01:15:37,300 --> 01:15:34,670 somewhat fixated on it but I you know I 1649 01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:37,310 I wonder if you should change that 1650 01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:38,930 instead of being you know maybe 1651 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:41,690 victimized of it but being on a mission 1652 01:15:45,820 --> 01:15:43,850 of sorts because you really are you're 1653 01:15:48,670 --> 01:15:45,830 aiding to help other people to open up 1654 01:15:51,580 --> 01:15:48,680 their eyes and to get them to realize 1655 01:15:53,290 --> 01:15:51,590 this is a real thing others have 1656 01:15:55,420 --> 01:15:53,300 sweetness this around the world 1657 01:15:57,940 --> 01:15:55,430 witnessed odd things around the globe 1658 01:16:01,690 --> 01:15:57,950 and you know to normalize the paranormal 1659 01:16:03,790 --> 01:16:01,700 because you know this is reality so I I 1660 01:16:05,500 --> 01:16:03,800 would hope that you know you could get 1661 01:16:08,170 --> 01:16:05,510 to that point because I think your 1662 01:16:10,210 --> 01:16:08,180 message is powerful your experience is 1663 01:16:12,940 --> 01:16:10,220 powerful and you're not alone in the 1664 01:16:16,180 --> 01:16:12,950 reality your son was there and you know 1665 01:16:19,300 --> 01:16:16,190 lucky you that he did see that is he 1666 01:16:21,250 --> 01:16:19,310 handling this okay well what he 1667 01:16:23,170 --> 01:16:21,260 experienced this that'sthat's the thing 1668 01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:23,180 that's that's that's worn a little bit 1669 01:16:29,350 --> 01:16:25,850 of a divided house because he's he does 1670 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:29,360 but um you know it's something he just 1671 01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:31,730 doesn't want to talk about and and so he 1672 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:36,890 is traumatized hmm I don't know you know 1673 01:16:41,530 --> 01:16:38,570 I'm gonna be honest we just don't talk 1674 01:16:43,450 --> 01:16:41,540 about it much it's an on top it's an on 1675 01:16:45,250 --> 01:16:43,460 topic and I'm in a little bit of divided 1676 01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:45,260 household it's a little bit about I mean 1677 01:16:50,050 --> 01:16:47,930 we we do we talk about it but and he 1678 01:16:51,820 --> 01:16:50,060 would have came on the show but he 1679 01:16:54,790 --> 01:16:51,830 doesn't come on many shows and it just 1680 01:16:56,890 --> 01:16:54,800 isn't anything we even you know I mean 1681 01:16:58,839 --> 01:16:56,900 because some like he's frustrated with 1682 01:17:01,330 --> 01:16:58,849 me would would like me to he want 1683 01:17:03,009 --> 01:17:01,340 he wants to get out warm wants other 1684 01:17:04,419 --> 01:17:03,019 bigger things to happen like I wanted to 1685 01:17:07,060 --> 01:17:04,429 happen I guess what you want to call 1686 01:17:08,889 --> 01:17:07,070 pipe dream I feel like it's that's where 1687 01:17:11,169 --> 01:17:08,899 I'm the wounded where it's Carol said in 1688 01:17:13,119 --> 01:17:11,179 here because I feel like I've just set 1689 01:17:14,949 --> 01:17:13,129 myself up for something like that and I 1690 01:17:16,899 --> 01:17:14,959 had big things happen and I've gotten a 1691 01:17:18,969 --> 01:17:16,909 long ways from yeah from when I very 1692 01:17:21,459 --> 01:17:18,979 first came on this network and all it 1693 01:17:22,779 --> 01:17:21,469 was was just a MUFON encounter and I've 1694 01:17:24,580 --> 01:17:22,789 gone I've done all these other things 1695 01:17:26,830 --> 01:17:24,590 since then but I feel like it's still 1696 01:17:32,649 --> 01:17:26,840 never enough and I keep wanting to get 1697 01:17:34,389 --> 01:17:32,659 out more and everybody tells me ray 1698 01:17:36,129 --> 01:17:34,399 tells max you can make a book and I 1699 01:17:37,750 --> 01:17:36,139 should do a book I should do a book and 1700 01:17:40,029 --> 01:17:37,760 this and that but I don't have money for 1701 01:17:41,290 --> 01:17:40,039 that and I don't I'm just you know I'm 1702 01:17:43,119 --> 01:17:41,300 just here you know trying to tell my 1703 01:17:44,979 --> 01:17:43,129 story if I had money for a book maybe I 1704 01:17:49,949 --> 01:17:44,989 would but I got I got a family to feed I 1705 01:17:57,429 --> 01:17:54,639 just say there is a way but you know 1706 01:17:59,259 --> 01:17:57,439 it's it's I understand you know people 1707 01:18:01,869 --> 01:17:59,269 who have had an unbelievable experience 1708 01:18:05,909 --> 01:18:01,879 like yourself they get this Drive in 1709 01:18:08,799 --> 01:18:05,919 them that just cannot be satisfied so 1710 01:18:10,750 --> 01:18:08,809 well I've said it again I said it again 1711 01:18:13,089 --> 01:18:10,760 that the UFO really landed on a person 1712 01:18:16,060 --> 01:18:13,099 that just doesn't give up and you know 1713 01:18:17,500 --> 01:18:16,070 III know that that that maybe people 1714 01:18:19,449 --> 01:18:17,510 want to maybe roll their eyes or 1715 01:18:20,889 --> 01:18:19,459 whatever but I feel in my heart and my 1716 01:18:22,989 --> 01:18:20,899 son and a lot of people feel we've seen 1717 01:18:25,149 --> 01:18:22,999 something really special and a lot of 1718 01:18:27,129 --> 01:18:25,159 people out to debunk Bob Lazar and what 1719 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:27,139 Bob Lazar seen or what he didn't or 1720 01:18:30,339 --> 01:18:29,090 maybe you worked with or maybe he didn't 1721 01:18:33,609 --> 01:18:30,349 work with but I can tell you what 1722 01:18:35,589 --> 01:18:33,619 whatever he knew and he knew you know 1723 01:18:39,729 --> 01:18:35,599 I'm not saying what I seen it was a was 1724 01:18:42,399 --> 01:18:39,739 was anything but we seen as far as a we 1725 01:18:44,799 --> 01:18:42,409 made but that technology that Bob has 1726 01:18:50,229 --> 01:18:44,809 talked about yeah there and it was 1727 01:18:52,770 --> 01:18:50,239 happening and full effect and and you 1728 01:18:55,599 --> 01:18:52,780 know you look at that image that I made 1729 01:18:57,099 --> 01:18:55,609 you know that you see on that report and 1730 01:18:59,529 --> 01:18:57,109 then you start going and googling 1731 01:19:01,089 --> 01:18:59,539 pictures of what Ezekiel's wheel and 1732 01:19:03,399 --> 01:19:01,099 what you're gonna do is you're gonna 1733 01:19:04,839 --> 01:19:03,409 look at it basically what I say but 1734 01:19:06,699 --> 01:19:04,849 you're gonna look at what Ezekiel you 1735 01:19:08,469 --> 01:19:06,709 know he has to put wheels on it and way 1736 01:19:10,179 --> 01:19:08,479 he wrote it down he and scripture dit 1737 01:19:12,159 --> 01:19:10,189 and when Ezekiel of course had this 1738 01:19:12,460 --> 01:19:12,169 encounter but he could only go around on 1739 01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:12,470 tell 1740 01:19:15,580 --> 01:19:14,090 everybody back then that it was a dream 1741 01:19:17,020 --> 01:19:15,590 because well that's probably anything he 1742 01:19:18,790 --> 01:19:17,030 could figure out it was back then 1743 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:18,800 a diner he was just telling everybody 1744 01:19:21,250 --> 01:19:20,090 that because he knew that's the only 1745 01:19:24,490 --> 01:19:21,260 thing you tell them for them to go oh 1746 01:19:26,230 --> 01:19:24,500 yeah XE Keo and then let them just kind 1747 01:19:27,910 --> 01:19:26,240 of still be their buddy right here that 1748 01:19:35,410 --> 01:19:27,920 or if you kept going on say no no no 1749 01:19:37,030 --> 01:19:35,420 really yeah I have you know I hate to 1750 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:37,040 say but we've come to the bottom and all 1751 01:19:40,690 --> 01:19:38,810 we have of this show so I don't think 1752 01:19:42,940 --> 01:19:40,700 you once again Chris Brown for coming on 1753 01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:42,950 the program and your story's powerful 1754 01:19:47,980 --> 01:19:45,170 don't give up keep strong keep positive 1755 01:19:49,390 --> 01:19:47,990 and this is not a way to make a living 1756 01:19:51,970 --> 01:19:49,400 off from this I'll tell you that but 1757 01:19:54,930 --> 01:19:51,980 passion passion driven that is 1758 01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:54,940 definitely something that is a very 1759 01:19:59,410 --> 01:19:57,530 plentiful in this field so thank you 1760 01:20:01,690 --> 01:19:59,420 once again Chris I appreciate you coming 1761 01:20:03,310 --> 01:20:01,700 on the program tonight all right guys 1762 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:03,320 we've come to the bottom of another 1763 01:20:07,690 --> 01:20:04,970 program remember you catch me here every